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Thread: The children of Windrush

  1. #51

    Re: The children of Windrush

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    I watched some of it today - Corby's pretty useless, and Eric is right, he decides what to say based on what his team tell him.

    This is pretty much like the VAR in a game , waiting for the decision. Somewhere there will be a document / email that says that who took the decision etc. Whoever gets the oldest document will have won the point.

    It's a good bit of back and for politics, it was a cock up, a decision was made based on the advice the landing cards were no longer needed, as Windrush kids were covered by existing laws. If they are no longer needed the Civil Service have to act within the Data Protection Act - and that means as the data was no longer needed to be kept and therefor (as I understand it) the documents must be shredded. If they were kept then the civil service are breaking the law.

    But no one bothered to ask the people that were using them first it seems. Under the new GDPR laws they would have been shredded even sooner.

    I guess Jezza is happy the anti zionist heat is off him for a bit and back on May. What's going to be next ?
    Where’s the yawn smiley when you need one.

    It’s the change in legislation brought in by this government that has caused all this, agree?

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  3. #53

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    In brief – what does the Data Protection Act say about keeping personal data?

    “The Act does not set out any specific minimum or maximum periods for retaining personal data. Instead, it says that:

    Personal data processed for any purpose or purposes shall not be kept for longer than is necessary for that purpose or those purposes.

    This is the fifth data protection principle. In practice, it means that you will need to:

    review the length of time you keep personal data;
    consider the purpose or purposes you hold the information for in deciding whether (and for how long) to retain it;
    securely delete information that is no longer needed for this purpose or these purposes; and
    update, archive or securely delete information if it goes out of date”.

    So when considering the purpose of keeping the landing documents it’s safe to say that they should have been kept because of their importance. Staff at that time brought up their concerns but their concerns were dismissed.

  4. #54

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    David Cameron used to send Sir Nick Clegg to tell Theresa May to "stop being so extreme on immigration" during the Conservative-Liberal Democrat coalition government, a senior peer has claimed.

    This can’t be true surely to God

    https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...nger-1-9125417

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  6. #56

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    "Let us start with a sense of humanity. Every case is a human story, its triumphs and tragedies."

    2013: On the same day as Theresa May's heartless statement on immigrants, one Labour MP provided a compassionate, inspiring alternative.

    Take a bow, Jeremy Corbyn.

    https://twitter.com/el4jc/status/987...161986049?s=21

  7. #57

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    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...y-leak-reveals

    Amber Rudd privately boasted to the prime minister that she would give immigration officials greater “teeth” to hunt down and deport thousands more illegal migrants and accelerate the UK’s deportation programme.

    As the city song goes “Time to go, time to go” etc

  8. #58

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/politics...y-leak-reveals

    Amber Rudd privately boasted to the prime minister that she would give immigration officials greater “teeth” to hunt down and deport thousands more illegal migrants and accelerate the UK’s deportation programme.



    As the city song goes “Time to go, time to go” etc
    May should go. She is a heartless hag. She was Home Secretary when this disgusting policy was actioned. It was also under her watch that those vans were driven around the streets trying to round up illegal immigrants. She is a repulsive piece of work.

  9. #59

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    May should go. She is a heartless hag. She was Home Secretary when this disgusting policy was actioned. It was also under her watch that those vans were driven around the streets trying to round up illegal immigrants. She is a repulsive piece of work.
    Well said Pearcey3

  10. #60

    Re: The children of Windrush

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    May should go. She is a heartless hag. She was Home Secretary when this disgusting policy was actioned. It was also under her watch that those vans were driven around the streets trying to round up illegal immigrants. She is a repulsive piece of work.
    She and Rudd should walk... but we all know they won't.
    As with cricketers these days, to do the decent thing is a thing of the past and they know that if they can dig their stilletoes in for a little while longer, the next big headline will be a welcome smokescreen.

  11. #61

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    Another heartbreaking story. How many more

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...-brain-surgery

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  13. #63

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    Even Kuenssberg is having a go at May

    https://twitter.com/bbclaurak/status...673248258?s=21

  14. #64

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    Yet another story, racists to the core.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/...ush-generation

  15. #65

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    I MAY do at some point, wink wink.

  16. #66

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    Good grief you are so touchy about your beloved government.

    Have you read the horror stories and the suffering of our people and friends (if not read above links). Are you aware of any examples in modern times of a government treating such a large group of its citizens so atrociously? Are you aware of the removal of wording to legislation in 2014 brought in by and acted upon by May and Rudd? As well as bragging about introducing a HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT, Mays words. Vans with go home on! They knew the effect changes would have on the Windrush generation and they didn’t give two hoots. If they had then they would have helped those who have suffered for years.

    Did these actions and changes target people based on race? If so then this is racism.

    Mays reaction, Just tell em we are sorry and give em some money, that should do it.

    And the latest story to confirm they knew exactly what was going on, and in the Daily Heil as well.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...eneration.html

  17. #67

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    Interesting comment from Liam Byrne in 2007, then Labour Government minister regarding migration in the UK -
    C1697F11-87BC-4E52-B133-82CEF666D826.jpg

    I’m sure most on here agree with the Ministers comments?

  18. #68

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Interesting comment from Liam Byrne in 2007, then Labour Government minister regarding migration in the UK -
    C1697F11-87BC-4E52-B133-82CEF666D826.jpg

    I’m sure most on here agree with the Ministers comments?
    Absolutely - what's this got to do with Windrush?

  19. #69

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Absolutely - what's this got to do with Windrush?
    Ask Aunty Andy, she said May was bragging about creating a hostile environment. Seems her beloved Labour Government were doing exactly the same.

  20. #70

    Re: The children of Windrush

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Ask Aunty Andy, she said May was bragging about creating a hostile environment. Seems her beloved Labour Government were doing exactly the same.
    Oh purlease don’t patronise me. You know very well that it was the amendment to the wording in the 2014 legislation and the despicable actions of this government that is to blame.

  21. #71

    Re: The children of Windrush

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Ask Aunty Andy, she said May was bragging about creating a hostile environment. Seems her beloved Labour Government were doing exactly the same.
    Do you know the difference between managing illegal immigration and creating the political climate where the Windrush people were treated as if they were illegal?

  22. #72

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    Dear, dear me. Imagine getting that letter. How terrifying.

    https://twitter.com/davidlammy/statu...218818049?s=21

  23. #73

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    Surprised Teresa May hasn't "asked" Amber Rudd to fall on her sword.
    I couldn't imagine Thatcher allowing her party to be tainted like this and for so long. Perhaps it's a convenient distraction from the more pressing matters she should be dealing with?
    It comes to something when someone like Dianne Abbott holds all the cards against you, referring to Lord Carrington doing just this as 'a matter of honour'.
    She is right though, someone's head should roll. No shame some people.

  24. #74

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    Quote Originally Posted by MacAdder View Post
    Surprised Teresa May hasn't "asked" Amber Rudd to fall on her sword.
    I couldn't imagine Thatcher allowing her party to be tainted like this and for so long. Perhaps it's a convenient distraction from the more pressing matters she should be dealing with?
    It comes to something when someone like Dianne Abbott holds all the cards against you, referring to Lord Carrington doing just this as 'a matter of honour'.
    She is right though, someone's head should roll. No shame some people.
    2 words

    Human Shield

  25. #75

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    Rudd lied again yesterday, what a surprise. Rudd and May should resign immediately.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-43902599

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