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    Re: Cardiff City ....You have to beat Hull and Reading and you will play in the premier league..

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    That’s just it though .
    We are in the driving seat . We are in charge of our own destiny.
    I said on Wednesday that Fulham would happily swap places and fixture lists with Cardiff.

    Hull + Reading have 91 points. Only 5 points more than Cardiff if you combine their seasons! Not sure why there is so much fear around the board.

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    Re: Cardiff City ....You have to beat Hull and Reading and you will play in the premier league..

    Quote Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt View Post
    I said on Wednesday that Fulham would happily swap places and fixture lists with Cardiff.

    Hull + Reading have 91 points. Only 5 points more than Cardiff if you combine their seasons! Not sure why there is so much fear around the board.
    I am very chilled about the whole thing. Most people I speak to are the same . ( That doesn’t include Mike Morris. who was very stressed when I saw him the other day ) Probably the best championship there has ever been , some of the teams are frightening on paper, the lure of the money league is enticing more investors to spend their cash in our league .And we are sitting with the potential to top them all bar one.

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    Re: Cardiff City ....You have to beat Hull and Reading and you will play in the premier league..

    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy the Jock View Post
    I am very chilled about the whole thing. Most people I speak to are the same . ( That doesn’t include Mike Morris. who was very stressed when I saw him the other day ) Probably the best championship there has ever been , some of the teams are frightening on paper, the lure of the money league is enticing more investors to spend their cash in our league .And we are sitting with the potential to top them all bar one.
    2011-12 84.75
    2012-13 79.5
    2013-14 90
    2014-15 87.5
    2015-16 88.5
    2016-17 88.25
    2017-18 88.5 (still games to be played)

    These are the average points won by the top 4 in the Championship. 2013-14's table probably looks the closest to this season's table. That season, Birmingham stayed up on 44 points - this season, I reckon 42 points will see teams safe. The teams down the bottom have been poor, but they have thrown up the odd shock - Bolton beating Cardiff, Sunderland beating Fulham just two that spring to mind.

    But, because the bottom teams have won so few points, it follows that the teams at the top are likely to win more points than usual.

    In 2012-13, Cardiff were promoted with just 87 points. It's likely that the fourth placed side this season will have at least 87 points. That season Peterborough were relegated with 54 points. Many said that was a poor Championship, and Leicester finished in 6th with just 14 points more than relegated Posh.

    Derby, currently 6th are 33 points ahead of relegation - which is exactly how many points separated Champions Cardiff from Peterborough in 2012-13.

    It's probably the most exciting promotion race I think I've seen, but the difference between the top Championship clubs and the bottom has rarely been more pronounced. I'm not sure that makes the top teams better than, say, 2012-13. Palace finished 11th following promotion that season, Hull were 4 points clear of safety and Cardiff, well they were down by Easter.

    Cardiff have also spent on this squad, despite the often repeated myth that they have been operating on a tight budget.

    Morrison cost £4m, and Manga cost £5m. Tomlin was £3m and is now out on loan, Bogle cost £1m and is also on loan. Madine will cost a reported £6m. Danny Ward was £1.9m, Hardly scraped together are they?

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    Re: Cardiff City ....You have to beat Hull and Reading and you will play in the premier league..

    Quote Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt View Post
    2011-12 84.75
    2012-13 79.5
    2013-14 90
    2014-15 87.5
    2015-16 88.5
    2016-17 88.25
    2017-18 88.5 (still games to be played)

    These are the average points won by the top 4 in the Championship. 2013-14's table probably looks the closest to this season's table. That season, Birmingham stayed up on 44 points - this season, I reckon 42 points will see teams safe. The teams down the bottom have been poor, but they have thrown up the odd shock - Bolton beating Cardiff, Sunderland beating Fulham just two that spring to mind.

    But, because the bottom teams have won so few points, it follows that the teams at the top are likely to win more points than usual.

    In 2012-13, Cardiff were promoted with just 87 points. It's likely that the fourth placed side this season will have at least 87 points. That season Peterborough were relegated with 54 points. Many said that was a poor Championship, and Leicester finished in 6th with just 14 points more than relegated Posh.

    Derby, currently 6th are 33 points ahead of relegation - which is exactly how many points separated Champions Cardiff from Peterborough in 2012-13.

    It's probably the most exciting promotion race I think I've seen, but the difference between the top Championship clubs and the bottom has rarely been more pronounced. I'm not sure that makes the top teams better than, say, 2012-13. Palace finished 11th following promotion that season, Hull were 4 points clear of safety and Cardiff, well they were down by Easter.

    Cardiff have also spent on this squad, despite the often repeated myth that they have been operating on a tight budget.

    Morrison cost £4m, and Manga cost £5m. Tomlin was £3m and is now out on loan, Bogle cost £1m and is also on loan. Madine will cost a reported £6m. Danny Ward was £1.9m, Hardly scraped together are they?
    Are you saying our spends compares with Villa, Middlesbrough,Derby this season?
    How much were the Sunderland,Hull Wolves,Fulham,Leeds squads to assemble?
    I would bet we are bottom half of the table when it comes to spend this season.
    Morrison has been with us for a few season as has Manga .
    If Madine was £5M then he could go down in history alongside our legend Cornelius from what I have seen so far.
    Bogle and Tomlin don’t count as we aren’t paying their wages ( I guess) I would double Tomlins wages and have him back in a second.
    Point is ,Warnock has recruited well on the whole with a very limited budget in comparison to the other sides in our league.

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