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    I don't wear a Poppy, and I think he's a tosser

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I don't wear a Poppy, and I think he's a tosser
    Why is he 'a tosser'?

    I usually wear a red poppy but not always (would prefer to wear a white one but never see them on sale up my way). When I do I am remembering the dead of wars from WW1 onwards - soldiers and civilians from all sides. However, I am not blind to the way many people in the media and political parties use the poppy - as a symbol of support for wars the UK has participated in, and a way of drowning out opposition. The moral pressure to conform has grown in my lifetime, and it takes some bravery to resist. James McClean has taken a clear stance based on his own experience and that of his home community - and stood firm in the face of a deluge of abuse. I admire him for that. No amount of shouting that the poppy is a symbol of peace will change his view that it is a celebration of the UK armed forces who were responsible for Bloody Sunday. Is that why he is 'a tosser' or is it something else?

    Anyway, it looks as if he's on his way to Stoke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jon1959 View Post
    Why is he 'a tosser'?

    I usually wear a red poppy but not always (would prefer to wear a white one but never see them on sale up my way). When I do I am remembering the dead of wars from WW1 onwards - soldiers and civilians from all sides. However, I am not blind to the way many people in the media and political parties use the poppy - as a symbol of support for wars the UK has participated in, and a way of drowning out opposition. The moral pressure to conform has grown in my lifetime, and it takes some bravery to resist. James McClean has taken a clear stance based on his own experience and that of his home community - and stood firm in the face of a deluge of abuse. I admire him for that. No amount of shouting that the poppy is a symbol of peace will change his view that it is a celebration of the UK armed forces who were responsible for Bloody Sunday. Is that why he is 'a tosser' or is it something else?

    Anyway, it looks as if he's on his way to Stoke.
    I just find him generally irritating, nothing to do with the poppy stuff.
    Some people just annoy me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I just find him generally irritating, nothing to do with the poppy stuff.
    Some people just annoy me.
    His coward tackles for one, I don't enjoy. Stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S6G5-4Dha0

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    His coward tackles for one, I don't enjoy. Stuff like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S6G5-4Dha0
    I enjoyed this though https://twitter.com/RTEsport/status/930552598536396800


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    There's a few players in the 2 Bundesliga who might be able to do a job for us - Its not far off the Championship in standard, and the standard of coaching is generally high in Germany.

    Sonny Kittel (25) - a left winger from Ingolstat, picked up 10 goals and 15 assists from 30 games this season

    Christopher Trimmel (31) A right back at union berlin who is tall and very strong defensively, but can also dribble and cross well, has provided 10 assists from crosses (possibly a bit old)

    Lukas Frode (23) a big and tall defensive midfielder who plays for Duisberg

    Enrico Valentini (29) - A strong right back who also likes to cross - 9 assists this season at nurnberg though who I think got promoted

    Marvin Ducksch (24) - Striker at Holstein Kiel, got 18 goals and 7 assists. 6ft 2 and looks mobile. Leeds were interested earlier in the year.

    Haris Duljevic (24) very quick, skillful winger at dinamo dresden - used to play for Tan's team in Bosnia FK Sarajevo, Bosnian National.

    Oviously I know very little about any of these, a few grainy youtube clips etc, but on the plus side I'm pretty confident that all the above would be well within our price range - perhaps we should be looking into this sort of division?

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    Just leaving this here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
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    Just leaving this here
    Watching the Villa v Boro games, he's got a long way to go.

    Also, Yanic! That pretty much says it all to me. Dribbling isn't the be all and end all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Watching the Villa v Boro games, he's got a long way to go.

    Also, Yanic! That pretty much says it all to me. Dribbling isn't the be all and end all.
    He's not the finished product that's for sure, but his potential ceiling is very high.
    Pulis has managed to get a lot more out of him than previous managers, I think warnock would too, he lets his wingers have a go and not too worried about keeping possession.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    He's not the finished product that's for sure, but his potential ceiling is very high.
    Pulis has managed to get a lot more out of him than previous managers, I think warnock would too, he lets his wingers have a go and not too worried about keeping possession.
    At a risk of sounding like a broken record, I'm sure if we're in a position to gamble on potential. He's a very exciting player but got marked out of the game by Alan Hutton recently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    At a risk of sounding like a broken record, I'm sure if we're in a position to gamble on potential. He's a very exciting player but got marked out of the game by Alan Hutton recently.
    Yeah, he probably is too much of a gamble, given how much it would cost to prize him away. Which is a pity as the potential upside is massive. I wouldn't read too much into the villa games though. In the 2-3 months before that he was just about the best player in the league

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    At a risk of sounding like a broken record, I'm sure if we're in a position to gamble on potential. He's a very exciting player but got marked out of the game by Alan Hutton recently.
    That phrase is probably lost on the youth of today. And how many people still say that they 'tape' stuff on TV?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Indeed. We live in a world where we all want to express an opinion on various matters but where many people are vilified for having a different opinion to us. The poppy has been, historically, inextricably linked to the British military and it's inevitable that people will have different views on the subject, especially those who come from a background where the British may have been perceived as occupiers and/or suppressors. The internet these days is often akin to a pitchfork mob.
    Everyone wants to see everything as black or white but we live in a world where someone wearing a poppy out of respect for peace and people who’ve died at war (I always wear one) and people who won’t wear one because they think they represent the ills of the British army can both be right.

    People have died and fought in wars to protect this sort of free speech. Disagree with them fine but to hate them because of it seems counter productive.

    NB I think James Maclean is a dick head unrelated to this and als think he’s a donkey of a footballer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    Everyone wants to see everything as black or white but we live in a world where someone wearing a poppy out of respect for peace and people who’ve died at war (I always wear one) and people who won’t wear one because they think they represent the ills of the British army can both be right.

    People have died and fought in wars to protect this sort of free speech. Disagree with them fine but to hate them because of it seems counter productive.

    NB I think James Maclean is a dick head unrelated to this and als think he’s a donkey of a footballer.
    Not all of the wars were in support of free speech, of course. Some wars and operations we have been engaged in were for less altruistic reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BLUETIT View Post
    The "POPPY" is a symbol of PEACE not war.

    My son and I have lost some very close friends in Iraq & Afgan and the least this fella could do, is show respect for the boys & girls who are defending his family now, not looking to the past.

    History is past, The Empire, Slavery and the such are in the past, we all have to look to the future and our children and grand-children, and make this a world that's safe for them.
    I agree with what you’re saying for me it’s a symbol of rememberance for anyone who’s died in a war. But also I can see how it’s being used as a symbol of nationalistic fist pumping by the media and I can see why someone who grew up as a republican in N. Ireland wouldn’t want to wear one.

    His open letter is worth a read - https://www.joe.ie/sport/pic-james-m...tonight-474522

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    Warnock quoted in WOL as looking north of the border for two or three players.

    I guess that's some Celtic players, such as Callum McGregor (who I really like), Stuart Armstrong, John McGinn, Chris Cadden and James Forrest? I'm assuming he'll stay Scottish, and there's slim pickings once you go outside of Celtic's squad. Maybe Morelos but he doesn't really seem a "Warnock striker".

    That's my limited knowledge from occasionally watching Celtic spank everyone else. Maybe Scott McKenna at Aberdeen, he's highly rated apparently. I do think we'd struggle to get players from Celtic but who knows.

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    Thanks for that. I'll be looking out for this kid. The pass on the 3rd clip down is sublime.

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    Alireza Jahanbakhsh at AZ Alkmaar, they signed him for 1.5 million a couple of seasons ago, and he's just scored 21 goals and 12 assists from 32 games in the eredivsie, playing at right wing.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZulfwFbXWo
    Direct, quick strong and skillful, I reckin he would suit our style of play to a tee, could even be in our price range.

    Only downside is success in the eredivsie is a terrible indicator of success at a higher level, there are as many Alfonso Alves' as there are Luis Suarez's

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    Danny Ward emerges as summer target for Norwich City, more interest likely
    https://www.thisisanfield.com/2018/0...-norwich-city/

    Cardiff mentioned in the article (for no apparent reason). Think he'd be worth considering though

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    Why are we looking at Scottish players ffs, we are Cardiff City Capital of Wales!Lets have some of our own, Hennessey,Ward,Gunter,Collins,Wilson,Allen, Brooks and Woodburn would ALL improve our squad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ianto13 View Post
    Why are we looking at Scottish players ffs, they aren't very good
    Fixed

  24. #24

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Fixed
    Correct .

    That Patterson guy was a right waste of money , how could anyone be as stupid to believe he could play at the highest level with the incredible, the mighty , Bloobirds..............

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ianto13 View Post
    Why are we looking at Scottish players ffs, we are Cardiff City Capital of Wales!Lets have some of our own, Hennessey,Ward,Gunter,Collins,Wilson,Allen, Brooks and Woodburn would ALL improve our squad!
    Anglesey, Wrexham, Newport, Newport, Wrexham, Carmarthen, Warrington, Chester

    Our own?

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