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    Re: The rich getting richer and the poor

    Gosh big money .

    I notice for the first time the top 100 are self made millionaires like Dyson and not handed down rich kids via hereditary dosh .

    Although its obscene I do wonder if these folk didn't invest or live hear how , that would effect employment overall balance of the economy which sadly would hit the very bottom of society as it always does .

    I don't mind folk being self made rich as long as they add back .

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    Re: The rich getting richer and the poor

    Hold on a second, I thought we were all in this together?

    'Self-made' is a very strange term. If the people on that list were born in Somalia they would be selling bananas by the side of the road with barely a pot to piss in. The conditions one exists in are massively important, as is luck.

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    No wonder they don't want Corbyn to become PM, life is too good. It's probably the same lot who were plotting against Trump that are behind all the dirty tricks. At least we are now seeing how it all works, as those behind the curtain are slowly being exposed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    By rich, I assume that you mean the job creators?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    By rich, I assume that you mean the job creators?
    I knew it would be long before the poorest Tory in Britain stuck his oar in Only joking!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I knew it would be long before the poorest Tory in Britain stuck his oar in Only joking!
    You ought to try stand up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    You ought to try stand up.
    To be fair though, those people in that article are a bit out of your league, I bet you don't even have any secret offshore banks accounts!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    To be fair though, those people in that article are a bit out of your league, I bet you don't even have any secret offshore banks accounts!
    This is none of your business whatsoever and not something I would discuss on a football message board.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    By rich, I assume that you mean the job creators?
    That's certainly true of James Dyson. He campaigned long and hard during the referendum to leave the EU, yet sets up sweatshops in the far east.

    A man for whom Britain is so important, he'd rather not pay lots of British people decent British wages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    Dyson kept the business in the UK, kept all the research & development in the UK. They moved the manufacturing to Malaysia as the cost of manufacturing the product in the UK meant they couldnt compete.
    Maybe there's a moral question in all of this, then.

    Take that tosser who owns Wetherspoon. Touting British jobs for British people and a cull in immigration then in the aftermath of the referendum said that foreigners should still be allowed to work in his pubs.

    You can have your line on it if you want. My view is that if these people are so patriotically British, they should put their own money where their mouth is. Given the millions in profit Dyson rakes in every year, why can't he afford to help British manufacturing? Because he's looking to feather his own nest as much as he can rather than help his fellow Brits with more employment. Greed before principles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    Dyson kept the business in the UK, kept all the research & development in the UK. They moved the manufacturing to Malaysia as the cost of manufacturing the product in the UK meant they couldnt compete.

    For the same reason that Hoover (Candy) moved away from Merthyr and to the Czech Republic. It cost them too much to produce here compared to there. So you cant blame Dyson for that.

    ps even the leftie loving Guardian reported this - "Dyson shrugs off Brexit fears with massive UK expansion plan
    Technology group to open new 210-hectare campus as part of £2.5bn investment and plans to double workforce"

    https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...expansion-plan
    I agree with Eric's point, if I have interpreted it correctly, taken in the context of the phrase 'job creator'. The super rich do it for themselves, I don't blame them for this one bit, it is how the world goes round. But to imply they are some sort of benevolent super-beings that are keeping the rest of us alive is just rubbish.

    Good luck to them, having a list dominated by 'self-made' super rich is very positive for somebody with my views. If someone comes from nothing it means their parents almost certainly didn't pay enough to tax, directly or indirectly, to cover the cost of their upbringing (education, healthcare being two biggies), it proves the success of a progressive taxation system and validates the need for proper funding for vital services (especially those that impact children).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    I agree with Eric's point, if I have interpreted it correctly, taken in the context of the phrase 'job creator'. The super rich do it for themselves, I don't blame them for this one bit, it is how the world goes round. But to imply they are some sort of benevolent super-beings that are keeping the rest of us alive is just rubbish.
    I think there's also another interesting angle to this. Brexit has produced levels of nationalism not seen in many years, but you try and extend that to "buying British", so buying products that are made solely in Britain, how many would rather pay the extra, or would they prefer the cheap option everytime?

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    Re: The rich getting richer and the poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I think there's also another interesting angle to this. Brexit has produced levels of nationalism not seen in many years, but you try and extend that to "buying British", so buying products that are made solely in Britain, how many would rather pay the extra, or would they prefer the cheap option everytime?
    I doubt in todays climate that a buy British campaign would be allowed,

    I see today, that Britain's new richest man is not full on supporting, but stating in his opinion that Britain doesn't need Brussels. when you got zillions its easy to say it !!!!!!

    To answer your question i like to go for best value, and with place of manufacture not really considered, i bought a new car a few months back, not made in Britain and i don't believe that it has any significant British parts, the length of warranty was the deciding factor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    By rich, I assume that you mean the job creators?
    Gammon snowflake is off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    Gammon snowflake is off.

    How old are you exactly?

    Eight?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    Gammon snowflake is off.
    "Gammon has been seized upon by the radical left. It feels a little nastier. More weaponised."

    Another proof of the poster being from the hard, radicalised left. If proof were ever needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    "Gammon has been seized upon by the radical left. It feels a little nastier. More weaponised."

    Another proof of the poster being from the hard, radicalised left. If proof were ever needed.
    Any truth in the rumour that the current generation of Tories are a bit naughty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Abuse is the hallmark of the hard left, always has been but it can be seen to be getting worse recently. The poster that goes under the name of Aunty Andy has obviously fairly recently been indoctrinated in to the hard left, momentum type movement and has received instructions to dish out childish abuse to those who are not of a hard left persuasion and to anyone who doesn't agree with their views on life, society and politics.

    It is getting noticeably more frequent recently, thought the level of abuse is extremely childlike - snowflake, chubby, git etc. It is like that of a naughty young child.

    The poster is more to be pitied than blamed, to be honest.
    Lol that’s comedy gold.

    You’ve dished our abuse on this forum and been banned for it so many times I’ve lost count.

    I can’t be bothered getting in a decent conversation with you because you’re just not worth it. You put me on ignore and it’s sorted.

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    Re: The rich getting richer and the poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    Lol that’s comedy gold.

    You’ve dished our abuse on this forum and been banned for it so many times I’ve lost count.

    I can’t be bothered getting in a decent conversation with you because you’re just not worth it. You put me on ignore and it’s sorted.
    Decent conversation?

    With you, love?

    You're 'aving a laugh.

    Any possibility of that went when momentum performed the lobotomy on you.

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    Re: The rich getting richer and the poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Abuse is the hallmark of the hard left, always has been but it can be seen to be getting worse recently. The poster that goes under the name of Aunty Andy has obviously fairly recently been indoctrinated in to the hard left, momentum type movement and has received instructions to dish out childish abuse to those who are not of a hard left persuasion and to anyone who doesn't agree with their views on life, society and politics.

    It is getting noticeably more frequent recently, though the level of abuse is extremely childlike - snowflake, chubby, git etc. It is like that of a naughty young child.

    The poster is more to be pitied than blamed, to be honest.
    Yep the left with their insults - the triggered beta snowflake libtard zanu-labour cucks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Yep the left with their insults - the triggered beta snowflake libtard zanu-labour cucks
    If you want to dish it out, you equally have to accept it back. However, I can't see anything abusive in what you have responded to. Just a statement of fact.

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    Re: The rich getting richer and the poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    If you want to dish it out, you equally have to accept it back. However, I can't see anything abusive in what you have responded to. Just a statement of fact.
    Opinion rather than fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Opinion rather than fact.
    Fact.

    Nothing more, nothing less. She has been wholly abusive post after post recently. Snowflake, chubby, fat - post after post the same abuse. I have not thrown abuse at the poster, not once. I have now merely pointed out how very immature and childish her online persona is these days. She is acting like a very spoilt, very immature adolescent. That is not abuse it is a statement of fact.

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    Re: The rich getting richer and the poor

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Fact.

    Nothing more, nothing less. She has been wholly abusive post after post recently. Snowflake, chubby, fat - post after post the same abuse. I have not thrown abuse at the poster, not once. I have now merely pointed out how very immature and childish her online persona is these days. She is acting like a very spoilt, very immature adolescent. That is not abuse it is a statement of fact.
    No, it is opinion

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