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Thread: Gambling machine stakes to be cut to £2

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    Gambling machine stakes to be cut to £2

    Gambling machines stake cut to £2 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44148285

    Watch half the high street bookies disappear

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    Good

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    Ironic that betting companies are predicting many job losses, but they never mentioned the lives ruined by gambling addictions.

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    Good news for everyone....Gordon Brown and Labour should hang their heads in shame for letting betting legislation slip a few years back.

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    Re: Gambling machine stakes to be cut to £2

    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    Good news for everyone....Gordon Brown and Labour should hang their heads in shame for letting betting legislation slip a few years back.
    Add this one to his long list of other major fk ups

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    I work for a bookies
    Expect the shops to start closing within 2 years

    Never liked the machines, hated them in fact but still feel for my colleagues
    But at the same time I tell them to get out whilst they can, weird half and half emotions for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    Good news for everyone....Gordon Brown and Labour should hang their heads in shame for letting betting legislation slip a few years back.
    St Tessa will be spinning in her grave and the poor dear has only been in there a few days.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukn...sa-Jowell.html

    She said "Gambling per se is not compulsive." I suppose you wouldn't expect a bird-brained gangster's moll to have heard of a Skinner machine.

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    Not before time either and how did it ever get to this state?

    I remember £4 jackpot limit in pubs and £100 in clubs as everyone knew the damage these machines could do.

    Now to stop Sky Bet, Paddy Power, Bet365 etc... advertising on Sky

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    Won't the people who play or are addicted just go and play in Casinos instead?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken smith View Post
    Won't the people who play or are addicted just go and play in Casinos instead?
    It's about making it more difficult to lose large sums of money too easily. Of course you can always go and bet but the slots just meant it was too easy to lose large sums of money

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    Quote Originally Posted by Whisperer View Post
    Good news for everyone....Gordon Brown and Labour should hang their heads in shame for letting betting legislation slip a few years back.
    I'd like to see a government of any persuasion grow some bollocks and tackle the food industry in the same way as they seem hell bent on making diabetics of us all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken smith View Post
    Won't the people who play or are addicted just go and play in Casinos instead?
    There are not several casinos in every town or village.

    You can still use these terminals, just not bet £100 every minute

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    My local bookies has a sign in the window saying 'Open Sunday 11 to 4'. Now I know for a fact that he opens every Sunday so I thought 11/4 is a good price, I'll have £50 on that, but the bastard wouldn't take my bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qccfc View Post
    There are not several casinos in every town or village.

    You can still use these terminals, just not bet £100 every minute
    You can still do it in your underpants at home if you want to though

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    Quote Originally Posted by ken smith View Post
    Won't the people who play or are addicted just go and play in Casinos instead?
    Or online, this doesn't really fix anything unless you like the sight of boarded up shops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Or online, this doesn't really fix anything unless you like the sight of boarded up shops.
    I got very close to being addicted to slot machines when i was younger, gambling online never really used to take to me.

    With slot machine i used to chase the win and i could feed money in without though, with these machines though they were single units so the theory was that it would pay out eventually (or in many cases that would not happen).

    I've been in bookmakers and seen people on these fixed odds machines chasing, and because they are networked the theory of pumping it in because it must come out at some point doesn't really work.

    Im glad these machines were not about when i was younger, that being said you can still spend £100 on these machines but instead of 20 seconds it now takes 16 minutes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qccfc View Post
    I got very close to being addicted to slot machines when i was younger, gambling online never really used to take to me.

    With slot machine i used to chase the win and i could feed money in without though, with these machines though they were single units so the theory was that it would pay out eventually (or in many cases that would not happen).

    I've been in bookmakers and seen people on these fixed odds machines chasing, and because they are networked the theory of pumping it in because it must come out at some point doesn't really work.

    Im glad these machines were not about when i was younger, that being said you can still spend £100 on these machines but instead of 20 seconds it now takes 16 minutes.
    It is certainly an interesting topic, everyone has their own demons and what appeals to one person doesn't necessarily to another. One thing to remember is that the social stigma is eliminated online, that guy you see at the train station on your way to work could have lost 10k of borrowed money this week online and you would never know.

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    Re: Gambling machine stakes to be cut to £2

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    It is certainly an interesting topic, everyone has their own demons and what appeals to one person doesn't necessarily to another. One thing to remember is that the social stigma is eliminated online, that guy you see at the train station on your way to work could have lost 10k of borrowed money this week online and you would never know.
    Yes i agree, everyone will gamble in different ways.

    For me i wanted the money, if i played a slot machine and won money (I put the deposit down on my first car on a slot machine win), i would have the money i would then go on to have a great night spending that money, i associated winning by having a good time.

    Registering a card then having to withdraw on that card and waiting for the funds to clear just never took me. Also the slot machine type games online just do not work.

    Personally i still believe that people should be allowed to gamble, but i get a little uneasy when i see the ease that people can use credit cards to gamble. It one thing gambling your entire wage away its another to be able to easily borrow to gamble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by qccfc View Post
    Yes i agree, everyone will gamble in different ways.

    For me i wanted the money, if i played a slot machine and won money (I put the deposit down on my first car on a slot machine win), i would have the money i would then go on to have a great night spending that money, i associated winning by having a good time.

    Registering a card then having to withdraw on that card and waiting for the funds to clear just never took me. Also the slot machine type games online just do not work.

    Personally i still believe that people should be allowed to gamble, but i get a little uneasy when i see the ease that people can use credit cards to gamble. It one thing gambling your entire wage away its another to be able to easily borrow to gamble.
    It is like anything, some people will do it to excess. Some people spend thousands a year on clothes they never wear, some people drink themselves into oblivion.

    One really interesting angle to this that I saw earlier was that these terminals are being used to launder dirty cash. Will make me think twice when I see the 'regular' feeding money into the machine at the local bookie and wondering how he has the cash to stand there all day!

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    This is just more nanny knows best stuff, the state protecting people from themselves and restricting them from making their own conscious choices.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    This is just more nanny knows best stuff, the state protecting people from themselves and restricting them from making their own conscious choices.
    Some people really do need protecting from themselves. Skinner who I mentioned above (I meant Skinner Box not Skinner Machine) made a good case for believing we don't make conscious choices - we are all controlled by reward systems. Skinner thinks the mug putting coins into one of those machines is no freer than a rat in a Skinner box. He needs help.

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    We all have character flaws. You, for example, enjoy few things more than pouring cheap and nasty Lidl's Nicaraguan brown ale down your neck from breakfast time onwards. Just because you and a tiny percentage of other alkies take it to excess shouldn't impinge on others' who moderate their intake.

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    What they should really be focus on is bookies who are also run by news outlets.

    The sun and sky have their own betting sites but push news about new managers etc and use that to get people to bet on things they know they’ll lose.

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    About £30k and 10 years too late for me but hey-ho.

    Ive come out the other side but this is welcome news for those still addicted.

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    Re: Gambling machine stakes to be cut to £2

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    What they should really be focus on is bookies who are also run by news outlets.

    The sun and sky have their own betting sites but push news about new managers etc and use that to get people to bet on things they know they’ll lose.
    ^^^spot on!

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