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  1. #1

    Sam Johnstone

    We're interested apparently, along with Villa, who currently have him on loan.

    Source: Alan Nixon on twitter.

  2. #2

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    I would have him here in a heartbeat.

    Was the best keeper I saw last season, both when we played them and when I saw them on TV.

    Young and very talented.

    Would give us 2 excellent keepers

  3. #3

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Quote Originally Posted by Lawnmower View Post
    I would have him here in a heartbeat.

    Was the best keeper I saw last season, both when we played them and when I saw them on TV.

    Young and very talented.

    Would give us 2 excellent keepers
    Who would be your number 1 then?

  4. #4

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    I’d rather a keeper with premiership experience and a bit older maybe. Seems to similar to Etheridge if you ask me.

  5. #5

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    He's the reason we didn't win at Villa Park and a big reason that a very average Villa side are even in the playoffs

    I'd take him in a heartbeat

  6. #6

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Quote Originally Posted by Elwood Blues View Post
    Who would be your number 1 then?
    Wouldn't be fair for me to say. They would both have all summer to prove to Warnock which one was best.

    Fabianski and Japuvik ( boy from Leicester 😂) are both superb keepers, but neither would turn into a £20m keeper. There's a fair chance Johnstone or Etheridge could.

  7. #7

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Fabianski be better option in my opinion. More experienced.

  8. #8

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    I wonder if the commercial considerations from etheridge would come into play.
    He'd be the only Philippines national player in a top league, and the premier league is the most popular league to watch over there.
    Football isn't a massive sport there, unlike other countries in the region, but it's a massive country and its popular enough to new us a bunch of overseas supporters surely?

  9. #9

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I wonder if the commercial considerations from etheridge would come into play.
    He'd be the only Philippines national player in a top league, and the premier league is the most popular league to watch over there.
    Football isn't a massive sport there, unlike other countries in the region, but it's a massive country and its popular enough to new us a bunch of overseas supporters surely?
    The type of support that will evaporate overnight.

  10. #10

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I wonder if the commercial considerations from etheridge would come into play.
    He'd be the only Philippines national player in a top league, and the premier league is the most popular league to watch over there.
    Football isn't a massive sport there, unlike other countries in the region, but it's a massive country and its popular enough to new us a bunch of overseas supporters surely?
    Yes, it is a massive country - but it is also extremely poor. Basketball and boxing is the main sport there and, unlike the Japanese who support players (and change clubs with the player), Filipinos are extremely patriotic. There are barely any football fans there at all, the National Team are known as the Azkals (street dogs) but are also much maligned. They are not likely to spend £40 on a shirt (unlike Koreans, Japanese, Chinese - even Thais). I was there in April, and whilst the locals knew Neil Etheridge, they didn't know that their national team had just qualified for the Asian Cup for the first time ever. They also didn't care.

    You can see kids wearing football shirts, but they are usually given as gifts from relatives who work overseas (lots of nurses work in the UK for example), or from charities to street kids who will have no concept of what that club is.

    There are very few commercial opportunities in promoting Etheridge imo. The locals will take pride in him if their national team starts getting recognised overseas - but I think it unlikely that this will extend to Filipinos buying Cardiff merchandise or UK based Filipinos buying match tickets in massive numbers. If the Philippines do nothing in the Asian Cup (very likely) then there will be little exposure of the team or of Etheridge.

  11. #11

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Quote Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt View Post
    Yes, it is a massive country - but it is also extremely poor. Basketball and boxing is the main sport there and, unlike the Japanese who support players (and change clubs with the player), Filipinos are extremely patriotic. There are barely any football fans there at all, the National Team are known as the Azkals (street dogs) but are also much maligned. They are not likely to spend £40 on a shirt (unlike Koreans, Japanese, Chinese - even Thais). I was there in April, and whilst the locals knew Neil Etheridge, they didn't know that their national team had just qualified for the Asian Cup for the first time ever. They also didn't care.

    You can see kids wearing football shirts, but they are usually given as gifts from relatives who work overseas (lots of nurses work in the UK for example), or from charities to street kids who will have no concept of what that club is.

    There are very few commercial opportunities in promoting Etheridge imo. The locals will take pride in him if their national team starts getting recognised overseas - but I think it unlikely that this will extend to Filipinos buying Cardiff merchandise or UK based Filipinos buying match tickets in massive numbers. If the Philippines do nothing in the Asian Cup (very likely) then there will be little exposure of the team or of Etheridge.
    Thanks for that. You sound like you are well informed. Spending a lot of time in Asia myself I can only concur that unless Etheridge was playing in something huge like the Champions League or got to the World Cup, then it isn't going to happen in the way some are hoping.

  12. #12
    Blue in the Face
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    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Quote Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt View Post
    Yes, it is a massive country - but it is also extremely poor. Basketball and boxing is the main sport there and, unlike the Japanese who support players (and change clubs with the player), Filipinos are extremely patriotic. There are barely any football fans there at all, the National Team are known as the Azkals (street dogs) but are also much maligned. They are not likely to spend £40 on a shirt (unlike Koreans, Japanese, Chinese - even Thais). I was there in April, and whilst the locals knew Neil Etheridge, they didn't know that their national team had just qualified for the Asian Cup for the first time ever. They also didn't care.

    You can see kids wearing football shirts, but they are usually given as gifts from relatives who work overseas (lots of nurses work in the UK for example), or from charities to street kids who will have no concept of what that club is.

    There are very few commercial opportunities in promoting Etheridge imo. The locals will take pride in him if their national team starts getting recognised overseas - but I think it unlikely that this will extend to Filipinos buying Cardiff merchandise or UK based Filipinos buying match tickets in massive numbers. If the Philippines do nothing in the Asian Cup (very likely) then there will be little exposure of the team or of Etheridge.
    Good post. But I don't think the point is that he is worth a lot commercially to us, to a bigger buying club, looking to expand in untapped and growing markets. Etheridge could help give one of the CL teams an effective monopoly of support going into the future.

  13. #13

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Johnstone is a class keeper. However, I think a lot depends on Villa winning their Playoff game or not. If they win I think they will be in pole position to either loan or sign him especially with Bruce having such strong united connections and seemingly more financial clout than us. If they fail to get promoted It will be interesting if we would e looking to loan or sign him as I don't think he'll come that cheap.

  14. #14

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Johnstone will be loaned to a club where he will be a guaranteed no.1.

    We are looking for a back up keeper.

    Cant see us being interested.

  15. #15

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Quote Originally Posted by Fine Lines View Post
    I’d rather a keeper with premiership experience and a bit older maybe. Seems to similar to Etheridge if you ask me.
    Two Etheridge's would suit me fine.

  16. #16

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Johnstone will be loaned to a club where he will be a guaranteed no.1.

    We are looking for a back up keeper.

    Cant see us being interested.
    It won't be a loan.

    However as mentioned above, if Villa win next week he'll probably go there

  17. #17

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    Johnstone will be loaned to a club where he will be a guaranteed no.1.

    We are looking for a back up keeper.

    Cant see us being interested.
    I beg to differ. I think we are looking at all positions to see if improvements can be made. It all depends on money. If someone like Johnstone became available and the wages weren't a problem, I'm sure we'd sign him. No player is invincible if we're going to improve, just some positions arguably need strengthening less than others.

  18. #18

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    He’s out of contract at the end of this season with Man Utd I believe. So unless he signs a new deal there he won’t be going on loan next season.

  19. #19

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Quote Originally Posted by Fine Lines View Post
    He’s out of contract at the end of this season with Man Utd I believe. So unless he signs a new deal there he won’t be going on loan next season.
    Man United have the option to extend it for another year. They'll trigger that and sell him this summer. He'll more than likely go to Villa if they go up but they won't be able to afford him or his wages if they stay down. If we can get someone of his ability for £5m then it's a no brainer, especially with Etheridge missing a month plus for the Asia cup.

  20. #20

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    I’d rather a more experienced keeper to come in tbh.

  21. #21
    Blue in the Face
    Guest

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    I wonder if this rumour will materialise now that Villa failed to go up.

    A loan for Snodgrass also seems like an obvious one.

  22. #22

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue in the Face View Post
    I wonder if this rumour will materialise now that Villa failed to go up.

    A loan for Snodgrass also seems like an obvious one.
    I think Villa would be nuts to loan him to us. If they want to go up he’s the sort of player they need to keep hold of. If it’s financial then they’d surely sell rather than loan.

  23. #23

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Quote Originally Posted by Barry Shitpeas View Post
    I think Villa would be nuts to loan him to us. If they want to go up he’s the sort of player they need to keep hold of. If it’s financial then they’d surely sell rather than loan.
    Johnstone is a Manchester United player
    Snodgrass a London City player

    Both on loan at Villa

  24. #24

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    I’d go for a more experienced keeper, Wayne Hennessey on a free?

  25. #25

    Re: Sam Johnstone

    Quote Originally Posted by binman View Post
    Johnstone is a Manchester United player
    Snodgrass a London City player

    Both on loan at Villa
    I’d forgotten Villa had loaned him.

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