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Thread: Venezuela

  1. #26

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Interesting to note there that the richest person in Venezuela is Chavez's daughter, Maria Gabriella Chavez, worth $4.2Billion. Not bad from being the daughter of a president who said being rich is very bad.
    You are so ****ing stupid, you've actually spent a good portion of the day arguing with Eric Cartman, before then going on to actually prove him correct.

    You seem to sit in judgment of people, whilst conveniently forgetting some of your shit soup servings of previous incarnations.

    Who can forget you gloriously using the death of a schoolgirl in a park (she was hit by a branch) during a teacher's strike to score political points? You've often aimed to get as low as that, without really succeeding too much. If you were on fire, I would happily piss all over you, just as people piss all over your poorly researched and "Tories good, labour bad" monochromatic view of the world.

    Have a wee look at the state of your Government, even your MPs are preparing for another election. Socialism is coming, and it's not before time.

  2. #27

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    On a broader point and not trying to score points, what is the best model for a communists / socialists country that we could compare or wish to become ,or with power do they simply become the same ego centrist ,greedy , self centered folk, that they accuse the right of becoming?
    Read Corbyn's manifesto for the last election. I had no intention of voting for him until I read it. That's exactly what this country needs.

  3. #28

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt View Post
    You are so ****ing stupid, you've actually spent a good portion of the day arguing with Eric Cartman, before then going on to actually prove him correct.

    You seem to sit in judgment of people, whilst conveniently forgetting some of your shit soup servings of previous incarnations.

    Who can forget you gloriously using the death of a schoolgirl in a park (she was hit by a branch) during a teacher's strike to score political points? You've often aimed to get as low as that, without really succeeding too much. If you were on fire, I would happily piss all over you, just as people piss all over your poorly researched and "Tories good, labour bad" monochromatic view of the world.

    Have a wee look at the state of your Government, even your MPs are preparing for another election. Socialism is coming, and it's not before time.
    Good for you. The reality is that if you were on fire i'd happily not piss all over you. Best wishes.

  4. #29

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Good for you. The reality is that if you were on fire i'd happily not piss all over you. Best wishes.
    Probably best for you both to nip this in the bud now Mark.

  5. #30

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    Probably best for you both to nip this in the bud now Mark.
    In fairness to Crassy - at least I know where he stands on matters. Ok so he is unable to debate, and he is a first class moron. All that aside, he is what he is.

    You, on the other hand, have taken the moronic art of "banter" and given it a one night stand with "Internet forums" and conceived a child that can only be described as inane, although you may call it "sophistication". First class show, well done you daft old twat. Your constant haranguing of Croesy is borderline psychotic (even if it is sometimes necessary).

  6. #31

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    Saying Venezuela isnt Socialist - is like saying the Pop is not really Catholic - just a man in a pointy hat. If Venezuela was an amazing success, where all the people paid zero tax, they had a fully paid for health and education service where everything worked etc - then you would have 'the left' claiming it as one of their own, and the reason why socialism works etc.

    Now that it's been proven that is is and always was complete bollox - then the 'left' drop it quicker than an ugly girlfriend.

    People get lazy, people cheat and that's what happens in life in general - whether you are left - right - or in the middle or anywhere else. Here is Jezza on the phone sending his congratulations and talking about about the fight for Socialism etc. He sounds more like the Spanish TV show with Paul WhiteHouse doing El Scorchio

    Wow, we have another one.

  7. #32

    Re: Venezuela

    "Wow, we have another one??"

    Another one that disagrees with your views? Is that acceptable or not??

  8. #33

    Re: Venezuela

    Venezuela’s Bolivar Surges Past 2,000,000 VEF/USD - http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/ru...#axzz5Hxbty7Mg

    'In the past week, Venezuela’s economic death spiral has picked up speed. When, Venezuela’s hyperinflationary episode began in November 2016 the bolivar was valued on the black-market (read: free-market) at roughly 1,500 VEF/USD. Today, 6/8/18, a greenback will fetch a stunning 2.3 million bolivars. Less than a month ago, that same greenback would have fetched “only” 800,000 bolivars. With the collapse of the bolivar, inflation has soared to a record high of 37,076%.'

    In the past fortnight or so the value of Argentina and Brazil's currencies have bombed and so has Turkey's. They've been able to limit the damage as they've used foreign reserves and hiked interest rates to prop them up.

  9. #34

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    "Wow, we have another one??"

    Another one that disagrees with your views? Is that acceptable or not??
    No another one who says I am wrong and then spends the entire post agreeing with me.

  10. #35

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    Saying Venezuela isnt Socialist - is like saying the Pop is not really Catholic - just a man in a pointy hat. If Venezuela was an amazing success, where all the people paid zero tax, they had a fully paid for health and education service where everything worked etc - then you would have 'the left' claiming it as one of their own, and the reason why socialism works etc.

    Now that it's been proven that is is and always was complete bollox - then the 'left' drop it quicker than an ugly girlfriend.

    People get lazy, people cheat and that's what happens in life in general - whether you are left - right - or in the middle or anywhere else. Here is Jezza on the phone sending his congratulations and talking about about the fight for Socialism etc. He sounds more like the Spanish TV show with Paul WhiteHouse doing El Scorchio

    And the rest of his mates said :::

    Seumas Milne, now Corbyn’s press wrote ""Venezuela and its Latin American allies have demonstrated it’s no longer necessary to accept a failed economic model, as many social democrats in Europe still do.”

    Union boss Len McCluskey saw Venezuela as a country that the rest of us should copy. “Europe might want to learn the obvious lessons from Venezuela,” he said.

    Diane Abbott agreed that Venezuela showed “another way” of doing politics

    Dangerous times

  11. #36

    Re: Venezuela

    Just been looking at the US dollar to Venezuelan bolivar charts.

    10 years ago two bolivars purchased one US dollar. Five years ago it needed nine bolivars to purchase the same one US dollar, and today 2.3 million bolivars is required.

  12. #37

    Re: Venezuela

    I always like the argument that Venezuela is an advert for what socialism is; It's like arguing The democratic reublics of Congo and North Korea are arguments of why democracy doesn't work. If you actually think what's going on there is true socialism you're either looking to point score or are a complete idiot who cannot understand a topic beyond basic principles. You also would have to think there's only one kind of socialism.

    I'm not saying socialism is the correct or only way to run a society but if you want a better representation of what a successful socialist country looks like finland, denmark and to a certain extent Canada are much better examples.

  13. #38

    Re: Venezuela

    People get lazy, people cheat and that's what happens in life in general - whether you are left - right - or in the middle or anywhere else.
    So it isn't socialism then, it might be an argument of why socialism cannot work or why it doesn' work in certain areas. But by the very definition of socialism the people in government getting rich whilst the proletrait eat rats is not socialism.

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