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  1. #1

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Always the snide little remarks when you find yourself on the wrong side of an argument. You should be ashamed of yourself.
    Wrong side? You have yet to make your argument. Posting an article without comment doesnt pass for an opinion.

    Snide remarks? Still hurts a little from when you called me a paedo sympathiser.

  2. #2

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Wrong side? You have yet to make your argument. Posting an article without comment doesnt pass for an opinion.

    Snide remarks? Still hurts a little from when you called me a paedo sympathiser.
    There can be no argument, Venezuela is and has been for all recent history a socialist / Communist country. All its leaders in recent years have been socialist / communist - from Betancourt through Chavez and through to Maduro.

    Interesting to note there that the richest person in Venezuela is Chavez's daughter, Maria Gabriella Chavez, worth $4.2Billion. Not bad from being the daughter of a president who said being rich is very bad.

    Venezuela may well be a gangster state but it is impossible to deny that for many, many years the country has been a socialist / Communist state.

    Unfortunately, the likes of you nor your leader can see what he has done to the country. Corbyn tweeted - "Thanks Hugo Chavez for showing that the poor matter and wealth can be shared. He made massive contributions to Venezuela & a very wide world" - I am not sure that the good people of Venezuela quite agree with that view.

    The imposition of price controls was an utter failure of policy, driving many, many companies supplying and producing the basics in Venezuela out of business. Socialism has meant that the inflation rate in Venezuela is now 18,000% - EIGHTEEN THOUSAND PERCENT, as the Government continues to print more and more money.

    Communism and socialism has been the cause of the demise of Venezuela and will continue to do so. Remember this is the country with the highest known oil reserves in the whole world. Who else but the communists / socialists could have blown that for its own people.

    An utter an abject failure.

  3. #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    There can be no argument, Venezuela is and has been for all recent history a socialist / Communist country. All its leaders in recent years have been socialist / communist - from Betancourt through Chavez and through to Maduro.

    Interesting to note there that the richest person in Venezuela is Chavez's daughter, Maria Gabriella Chavez, worth $4.2Billion. Not bad from being the daughter of a president who said being rich is very bad.

    Venezuela may well be a gangster state but it is impossible to deny that for many, many years the country has been a socialist / Communist state.

    Unfortunately, the likes of you nor your leader can see what he has done to the country. Corbyn tweeted - "Thanks Hugo Chavez for showing that the poor matter and wealth can be shared. He made massive contributions to Venezuela & a very wide world" - I am not sure that the good people of Venezuela quite agree with that view.

    The imposition of price controls was an utter failure of policy, driving many, many companies supplying and producing the basics in Venezuela out of business. Socialism has meant that the inflation rate in Venezuela is now 18,000% - EIGHTEEN THOUSAND PERCENT, as the Government continues to print more and more money.

    Communism and socialism has been the cause of the demise of Venezuela and will continue to do so. Remember this is the country with the highest known oil reserves in the whole world. Who else but the communists / socialists could have blown that for its own people.

    An utter an abject failure.
    On a broader point and not trying to score points, what is the best model for a communists / socialists country that we could compare or wish to become ,or with power do they simply become the same ego centrist ,greedy , self centered folk, that they accuse the right of becoming?

  4. #4

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    On a broader point and not trying to score points, what is the best model for a communists / socialists country that we could compare or wish to become ,or with power do they simply become the same ego centrist ,greedy , self centered folk, that they accuse the right of becoming?
    This is not about left or right. People are selfish and greedy, naturally, biologically! Socialism is theory based on everyone acting in the interests of the group, it can't work without violence and tyranny. Theoretical socialism hasn't been tried anywhere and won't be tried anywhere. Free market doesn't work either, these are economic and political theories.

  5. #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    Saying Venezuela isnt Socialist - is like saying the Pop is not really Catholic - just a man in a pointy hat. If Venezuela was an amazing success, where all the people paid zero tax, they had a fully paid for health and education service where everything worked etc - then you would have 'the left' claiming it as one of their own, and the reason why socialism works etc.

    Now that it's been proven that is is and always was complete bollox - then the 'left' drop it quicker than an ugly girlfriend.

    People get lazy, people cheat and that's what happens in life in general - whether you are left - right - or in the middle or anywhere else. Here is Jezza on the phone sending his congratulations and talking about about the fight for Socialism etc. He sounds more like the Spanish TV show with Paul WhiteHouse doing El Scorchio

    Wow, we have another one.

  6. #6

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    Saying Venezuela isnt Socialist - is like saying the Pop is not really Catholic - just a man in a pointy hat. If Venezuela was an amazing success, where all the people paid zero tax, they had a fully paid for health and education service where everything worked etc - then you would have 'the left' claiming it as one of their own, and the reason why socialism works etc.

    Now that it's been proven that is is and always was complete bollox - then the 'left' drop it quicker than an ugly girlfriend.

    People get lazy, people cheat and that's what happens in life in general - whether you are left - right - or in the middle or anywhere else. Here is Jezza on the phone sending his congratulations and talking about about the fight for Socialism etc. He sounds more like the Spanish TV show with Paul WhiteHouse doing El Scorchio

    And the rest of his mates said :::

    Seumas Milne, now Corbyn’s press wrote ""Venezuela and its Latin American allies have demonstrated it’s no longer necessary to accept a failed economic model, as many social democrats in Europe still do.”

    Union boss Len McCluskey saw Venezuela as a country that the rest of us should copy. “Europe might want to learn the obvious lessons from Venezuela,” he said.

    Diane Abbott agreed that Venezuela showed “another way” of doing politics

    Dangerous times

  7. #7

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    On a broader point and not trying to score points, what is the best model for a communists / socialists country that we could compare or wish to become ,or with power do they simply become the same ego centrist ,greedy , self centered folk, that they accuse the right of becoming?
    Read Corbyn's manifesto for the last election. I had no intention of voting for him until I read it. That's exactly what this country needs.

  8. #8

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Interesting to note there that the richest person in Venezuela is Chavez's daughter, Maria Gabriella Chavez, worth $4.2Billion. Not bad from being the daughter of a president who said being rich is very bad.
    You are so ****ing stupid, you've actually spent a good portion of the day arguing with Eric Cartman, before then going on to actually prove him correct.

    You seem to sit in judgment of people, whilst conveniently forgetting some of your shit soup servings of previous incarnations.

    Who can forget you gloriously using the death of a schoolgirl in a park (she was hit by a branch) during a teacher's strike to score political points? You've often aimed to get as low as that, without really succeeding too much. If you were on fire, I would happily piss all over you, just as people piss all over your poorly researched and "Tories good, labour bad" monochromatic view of the world.

    Have a wee look at the state of your Government, even your MPs are preparing for another election. Socialism is coming, and it's not before time.

  9. #9

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Badly Ironed Shirt View Post
    You are so ****ing stupid, you've actually spent a good portion of the day arguing with Eric Cartman, before then going on to actually prove him correct.

    You seem to sit in judgment of people, whilst conveniently forgetting some of your shit soup servings of previous incarnations.

    Who can forget you gloriously using the death of a schoolgirl in a park (she was hit by a branch) during a teacher's strike to score political points? You've often aimed to get as low as that, without really succeeding too much. If you were on fire, I would happily piss all over you, just as people piss all over your poorly researched and "Tories good, labour bad" monochromatic view of the world.

    Have a wee look at the state of your Government, even your MPs are preparing for another election. Socialism is coming, and it's not before time.
    Good for you. The reality is that if you were on fire i'd happily not piss all over you. Best wishes.

  10. #10

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Good for you. The reality is that if you were on fire i'd happily not piss all over you. Best wishes.
    Probably best for you both to nip this in the bud now Mark.

  11. #11

    Re: Venezuela

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Lecter View Post
    Probably best for you both to nip this in the bud now Mark.
    In fairness to Crassy - at least I know where he stands on matters. Ok so he is unable to debate, and he is a first class moron. All that aside, he is what he is.

    You, on the other hand, have taken the moronic art of "banter" and given it a one night stand with "Internet forums" and conceived a child that can only be described as inane, although you may call it "sophistication". First class show, well done you daft old twat. Your constant haranguing of Croesy is borderline psychotic (even if it is sometimes necessary).

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