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Thread: FREE TOMMY ROBINSON. NOW!

  1. #61

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Playing the devil's advocate, if the goal of any organisation was to gain a sympathetic response regarding immigration issues from a moderate section of society, then Tommy Robinson is the very last person you would want anywhere near such a campaign. The fact that he has become a leading voice means he is effectively closing down the opportunity of having any reasonable discourse on the subject.
    We have had a referendum campaign fought primarily on immigration and 3 general elections in a row the party which won the most seats made a very low inward migration target a prominent part of their manifesto and campaign.

    You should do a bit of quality control before you release these theories.

  2. #62

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    We have had a referendum campaign fought primarily on immigration and 3 general elections in a row the party which won the most seats made a very low inward migration target a prominent part of their manifesto and campaign.

    You should do a bit of quality control before you release these theories.
    But when you discuss immigration you are labelled a bigot or a racist, and if you support Corbyn you are an anti-Semite. These are old tactics used to marginalise those to the right and left of whoever is in power. The far right have also been used as a means to bring in new laws.

  3. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    But when you discuss immigration you are labelled a bigot or a racist, and if you support Corbyn you are an anti-Semite. These are old tactics used to marginalise those to the right and left of whoever is in power. The far right have also been used as a means to bring in new laws.
    This is talked about more than it actually happens and who cares anyway. I get called all sorts of things on here for my views, so do you, why do we allow people to be so sensitive?

  4. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    This is talked about more than it actually happens and who cares anyway. I get called all sorts of things on here for my views, so do you, why do we allow people to be so sensitive?
    I don't know, but I tend to post observations rather than views, and if I was in charge of the government I would be viewing Tommy Robinson as a political asset.

  5. #65

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    Hey Eric - where have you been for the last 2.5 pages of this thread, I thought you'd be here before long. Youve joined in the thread a bit late - but I guess you were busy watching and reading the contents of thread before giving an insight to the OP.

    Maybe you know who who the secret barrister is ?
    Not a clue, I was busy writing about Grenfell on my 'Secret Fireman' blog

  6. #66

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Hill View Post
    I have been asked to give my insight.

    I think this smiley should be made more 'warnocky'.

  7. #67

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  8. #68

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    Hang on pal , earlier you seemed to say that a 'lawyer' had written about the legal aspects of the case etc.
    As it happens - it is a blog called the secret barrister - who as it happens - seems to be anonymous. No one knows who he actually is - is that correct ?

    If it is - then I'll start my own blog, call myself the secret Judge - and tell everyone Im a high court judge - I'll copy / paste wiki and various stuff I find on the internet. Then maybe I'll write a book about it - happy days.
    What do you dispute out of the points then? Ignoring the fact that the books and columns and blogs have all been verified by plenty of other people as has the author. Dispute one bit of why the say heís been sent down?

    A barrister is a lawyer btw.

  9. #69

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    Also itís not like anything in the article isnít available elsewhere itís just been put into laymanís terms for us simpletons.

  10. #70

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    His supporters were recorded doing Nazi salutes

    Tells you all you need to know, coked up, ignorant, uneducated kents too scared to go to Russia so they fancied making a scene here, ironically flying in the face of the "British laws and values" they hold so dear

    Not sure why people are whinging that he went to prison, considering "Robinson" pleaded guilt FFS!

  11. #71

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    Just pointing out the very simple fact that no one knows who the secret barrister is - it could be me, it could be you.
    What does that matter though to the crux of this argument?

    I wouldnít say no one knows either, obviously the publishers of the book know, obviously the people who employ him/her to write columns know, obviously the people who interviewed him/her know.

    But all that is by the by because either way it doesnít change any of the facts stated.

  12. #72

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    The facts are - Robinson broke the law - he pleaded guilty and went to jail. The fact is also the secret barrister is unknown.
    My secret judge blog is coming along nicely - I'll be handing out my legal opinions anonymously soon enough for people to quote
    Well said Judge


  13. #73

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    Tommy Robinson bailed after Court of Appeal win

    https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-leeds-45029755

  14. #74

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Tommy Robinson bailed after Court of Appeal win

    https://www.bbc.com/news/amp/uk-england-leeds-45029755
    ďFantaetic news, like a new signingĒ.

    Some of the Gammon on that board.

    http://www.cardiffcityforum.co.uk/vi...430069137aaae5

  15. #75

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    Will we see a release of 2,4,6,8

  16. #76

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Will we see a release of 2,4,6,8
    If you mouth off as much as Mrs Robinson does you are either going to get a filling from the courts or someone outside

    I hope they send him back to prison , he's a criminal

  17. #77

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mambo View Post
    Just pointing out the very simple fact that no one knows who the secret barrister is - it could be me, it could be you.
    This reporter form the Finanicla Times appears to know who he is.

    https://www.ft.com/content/382254ee-...7-1e1a0846c475

  18. #78

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    If he was a good enough actor to pull this shite off heíd be winning oscars for millions of quid. Instead of being the petit bourgeois faux working class hero he is.
    Isn't "" a working class hero is something to be ""

  19. #79

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I'm not suggesting anything with regards to Robinson specifically, I was just commenting on the fact that political activism is a murky business when it comes to state interactions, and I think it would be foolish to believe that the EDL/BNP are being left to their own devices.
    Of course they do, its how Churchill sorted his issues out in infuriating the Irish, communist party .
    Think we should have perhaos listened more to Robinson in relation to Rotherham ,whatever his agenda was, he spotted the problems as did the BMP but chose to ignore it as it's coming from far right wing chatter and nastiness.

  20. #80

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Of course they do, its how Churchill sorted his issues out in infuriating the Irish, communist party .
    Think we should have perhaos listened more to Robinson in relation to Rotherham ,whatever his agenda was, he spotted the problems as did the BMP but chose to ignore it as it's coming from far right wing chatter and nastiness.
    I forget the name of the journalist and the social worker who were prominent in highlighting the issues in Rotherham but they were the people who highlighted this issue initially.

    Not Robinson and his ilk, they merely reacted to events. The issue I have is that Robinson is a gobshite who could have caused a trial to collapse because of his stupid actions. He did it for his own self exposure and through funding from idiots especially from the USA he is financially better offf.

    Not bad work for an ex BNP with a number of criminal offences. You canít polish a turd and all that and itís amazing how many people have fallen for this heís a hero bullshit.

  21. #81

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    I forget the name of the journalist and the social worker who were prominent in highlighting the issues in Rotherham but they were the people who highlighted this issue initially.

    Not Robinson and his ilk, they merely reacted to events. The issue I have is that Robinson is a gobshite who could have caused a trial to collapse because of his stupid actions. He did it for his own self exposure and through funding from idiots especially from the USA he is financially better offf.

    Not bad work for an ex BNP with a number of criminal offences. You canít polish a turd and all that and itís amazing how many people have fallen for this heís a hero bullshit.
    Yep ,your right there , but one point was ery prominent in that period, folk from politicians, police , news outlets, authorities were frightened stiff to deal with this issue because of the potengial race card accusations, and that is documented in the case papers . However awful the BNP were all over this , and yes they are scum ,yes they n
    Made political gain ,but they were shouting about it, plus some brave social workers .

    How could this have , ,
    go on for so long , with some 1400 children effected , is beyond my thought process, what is clear a lot of folk turned a blind eye, for a very long time .

  22. #82

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Yep ,your right there , but one point was ery prominent in that period, folk from politicians, police , news outlets, authorities were frightened stiff to deal with this issue because of the potengial race card accusations, and that is documented in the case papers . However awful the BNP were all over this , and yes they are scum ,yes they n
    Made political gain ,but they were shouting about it, plus some brave social workers .

    How could this have , ,
    go on for so long , with some 1400 children effected , is beyond my thought process, what is clear a lot of folk turned a blind eye, for a very long time .
    Just to play devil's advocate for a second. Every time there is a historical scandal people come up with some excuse to absolve themselves of any guilt for not reporting what they saw going on. BBC sexual abuse it was 'no one would have listened, he was too powerful', This time it was 'I didn't want to be called a racist'. The one thing I have never ever heard anybody say is 'I was a **** and I should have reported it'.

  23. #83

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    Quote Originally Posted by Henry Hill View Post
    It was thanks to likes of Tommy to finally get the law to do something about the hate preaching, which the police and government were turning a blind eye to.
    Tommy is an attention seeking rsole just like you

  24. #84

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    Quote Originally Posted by Llanedeyrnblue View Post
    Tommy is an attention seeking rsole just like you
    Your right Robinson is attention seeking ,but my worry is why doesn't anyone else have the emotional outpouring to also demonstrate ,ot shout loud and be heard against these awful people who delivered awful crimes on children , if others demonstrated , his platform would be diminished, perhaps he
    really does care and is not afraid of racism and it's backlash, which from the outside , seem take to such a priority position in life today and create investigational barriers .

  25. #85

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Your right Robinson is attention seeking ,but my worry is why doesn't anyone else have the emotional outpouring to also demonstrate ,ot shout loud and be heard against these awful people who delivered awful crimes on children , if others demonstrated , his platform would be diminished, perhaps he
    really does care and is not afraid of racism and it's backlash, which from the outside , seem take to such a priority position in life today and create investigational barriers .
    Are you saying he's the only person to publicly object? And his method is the only way?

    What a load of balls.

    If you are genuinely interested in his motivation, research how much money he makes monthly and the source of that income.

  26. #86

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Are you saying he's the only person to publicly object? And his method is the only way?

    What a load of balls.

    If you are genuinely interested in his motivation, research how much money he makes monthly and the source of that income.
    What are you doing to publicly object?

  27. #87

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Are you saying he's the only person to publicly object? And his method is the only way?

    What a load of balls.

    If you are genuinely interested in his motivation, research how much money he makes monthly and the source of that income.
    No I am not , and its not a" load of balls," as you eloquently put it .

    A lot of children suffered for far too long because of the mute reaction of others ,try and take Robinson out of the equation and look at the silence around this at the time, where were the police, media, authorities, politicians you cant tell me it was mentioned somewhere ?

  28. #88

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Are you saying he's the only person to publicly object? And his method is the only way?

    What a load of balls.

    If you are genuinely interested in his motivation, research how much money he makes monthly and the source of that income.

    Exactly, nothing more then a money making exercise and funded in part by American bellends who believe heís some sort of hero.

    Heís still guilty of one count of contempt of court and awaiting trial on another.

  29. #89

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    No I am not , and its not a" load of balls," as you eloquently put it .

    A lot of children suffered for far too long because of the mute reaction of others ,try and take Robinson out of the equation and look at the silence around this at the time, where were the police, media, authorities, politicians you cant tell me it was mentioned somewhere ?
    If you can show me any story of child abuse that was broken by "Tommy Robinson", be my guest. I'm sorry you didn't like the language but I'm afraid the idea that only "Tommy" is speaking up against child abuse to be absolutely ridiculous.

    "Tommy" was being paid around £8,000 a month to practice his racism, by the way. This is from a Sunday Times article.

    https://twitter.com/MikeStuchbery_/s...27665046810624

    From the same twitter thread:



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