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    I thought

    I thought we were told the government we’re going to be thoroughly beaten on the Brexit votes today?

    Nothing really happened, damp squib.

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    Who said the government were going to be thoroughly beaten? I saw it reported as a risky few hours for them, they needed to win over a few of their MP's and they managed to. I suspect those few won't see anything like what they were asking for but I think the worrying thing is that every week now a Tory party sideshow takes centre stage and it appears we are no closer to a Brexit that is acceptable to both sides - No deal or last minute fudge looming.

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    Yep, your right, Eric.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Who said the government were going to be thoroughly beaten? I saw it reported as a risky few hours for them, they needed to win over a few of their MP's and they managed to. I suspect those few won't see anything like what they were asking for but I think the worrying thing is that every week now a Tory party sideshow takes centre stage and it appears we are no closer to a Brexit that is acceptable to both sides - No deal or last minute fudge looming.
    I thought it was the public who voted for Brexit, so what has it got to do with the other side? If they had won do you think they would be making any concessions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I thought it was the public who voted for Brexit, so what has it got to do with the other side? If they had won do you think they would be making any concessions?
    I don't understand the question, who are the other side?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    Yep, your right, Eric.
    It's never stopped you before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    I don't understand the question, who are the other side?
    Those from this lot who lost the referendum "it appears we are no closer to a Brexit that is acceptable to both sides".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Those from this lot who lost the referendum "it appears we are no closer to a Brexit that is acceptable to both sides".
    I mean the EU and the UK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    I thought we were told the government we’re going to be thoroughly beaten on the Brexit votes today?

    Nothing really happened, damp squib.
    Teressa does em .

    Onwards our Boudica and crush those Eurocratics .

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Teressa does em .

    Onwards our Boudica and crush those Eurocratics .

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    Re: I thought

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick View Post
    I thought we were told the government we’re going to be thoroughly beaten on the Brexit votes today?

    Nothing really happened, damp squib.
    In its purest form - Voting to leave the EU, means voting to leave the EU and the customs union and the single market.
    If you are in the Customs Union etc you have not left the EU.

    Anything else that is agreed on - is a fudge.

    There was an interesting point made on radio5 today - in 1939 - we declared war, knowing that it may take years for it to be over and the repayments to fund the war - were not really considered. That decision would never have been made today. People decided to leave for the all the many reasons they decided. But if you make a moral decision based on whether it might it affect your share prices, whether it may mean prices go up, etc - they you arent basing your decision on morals at all, just a selfish vested interest.

    I was one of those - I wanted to remain as it was probably economically more viable in the short term, but politically I dont want to be part of a large european nation. I do want 27 countries that can freely trade together, even using an industry currency - as well as keeping our own sovereign currency. Yes we can all have the same safety, food, environmental standards - but we dont want an EU defence force, TTIP, more members joining with massive unemployment rates etc etc bloody etc - which was the leave part of my opinion. Should have voted for the hookie cookie party....

    So as per Labour will bang on about there being no plan - ironically - as they have no plan either. There may well be a plan in both parties - but you'd be daft to put all your cards out in the public domain when negotiating.

    One thing we do know - it wont be decided on the politics forum of CCMB - no matter how hard we try

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