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    Kids in America

    No mention so far of what is happening at the US border. There is some audio of many children crying for their parents doing the rounds - I can't face listening to it. Just reading the articles makes me feel sick; children separated from their parents and kept in cages in warehouses with 24 hour light and some bags of crisps, and in some cases no way of finding out where their parents are or if they have been deported.

    Here is something hard to stomach that I have seen. Ann Coulter on Fox news (does anyone on here take that network seriously?) accusing them of being child actors, going from scripts given to them by liberals.

    https://twitter.com/LevineJonathan/s...26102850797568

    Hopefully Trump will change his zero tolerance policy soon. No person with a heart could think this is justifiable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    No mention so far of what is happening at the US border. There is some audio of many children crying for their parents doing the rounds - I can't face listening to it. Just reading the articles makes me feel sick; children separated from their parents and kept in cages in warehouses with 24 hour light and some bags of crisps, and in some cases no way of finding out where their parents are or if they have been deported.

    Here is something hard to stomach that I have seen. Ann Coulter on Fox news (does anyone on here take that network seriously?) accusing them of being child actors, going from scripts given to them by liberals.

    https://twitter.com/LevineJonathan/s...26102850797568

    Hopefully Trump will change his zero tolerance policy soon. No person with a heart could think this is justifiable.

    Expect a link blaming Geroge Soros or the globalists very soon!

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    Re: Kids in America

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Expect a link blaming Geroge Soros or the globalists very soon!
    Maybe we wouldn't have these problems if globalism brought material benefits to certain countries, instead of exploiting them for cheap labour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Expect a link blaming Geroge Soros or the globalists very soon!
    It didn't take long. Unsurprisingly, because Trump is doing it, it's ok.

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    Re: Kids in America

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    It didn't take long. Unsurprisingly, because Trump is doing it, it's ok.
    I just knew that certain posters would try and justify it. Feckin unbelievable

  7. #7

    Re: Kids in America

    Very good tweet here.

    https://twitter.com/stonekettle/stat...594373120?s=21

    This county is heading the same way. If you are poor sick or disabled, you are fecked. Whose turn is it next?

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    Re: Kids in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    I just knew that certain posters would try and justify it. Feckin unbelievable
    Why not just let in a few hundred million families hey, that should solve the problem These people are being used as a political football by the left, which is quite dispicable. Are you against the rule of law? Or only when Trump is the one upholding the rule of law

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Why not just let in a few hundred million families hey, that should solve the problem These people are being used as a political football by the left, which is quite dispicable. Are you against the rule of law? Or only when Trump is the one upholding the rule of law
    Who said anything about letting hundreds of millions of family in????????????????? What has this got to do with the left???????????????????

    I’m a human being and I care about other human beings. Terrified children in cages separated from their parents, inhumane. The Nazis started like this

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    Re: Kids in America

    It's an emergency processing centre, their parents have broken the law by entering the USA illegally, i.e. they are criminals. Do you expect them to be put up in 5 star hotels? The numbers of illegal crossings are also up threefold, suggesting somebody is trying to manipulate the situation politically (November elections coming up). Furthermore this is not a Trump law, it was put on the statute by previous administrations, and besides that some of these children may even be victims of trafficking. You are a typical liberal propagandist, why don't you, and people like you do something instead of just talking. Maybe you could sponsor a family and have them come live at your house?

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...st-be-sent-ho/

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/10/fe...rant-families/

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    Re: Kids in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It's an emergency processing centre, their parents have broken the law by entering the USA illegally, i.e. they are criminals. Do you expect them to be put up in 5 star hotels? The numbers of illegal crossings are also up threefold, suggesting somebody is trying to manipulate the situation politically (November elections coming up). Furthermore this is not a Trump law, it was put on the statute by previous administrations, and besides that some of these children may even be victims of trafficking. You are a typical liberal propagandist, why don't you, and people like you do something instead of just talking. Maybe you could sponsor a family and have them come live at your house?

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...st-be-sent-ho/

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/10/fe...rant-families/
    I thought this thread might flush out some shit from you but fair play, this 10/10 standard.

    They're not all entering illegally.

    It's a trump policy. There's no law saying families must be separated.

    How many of the kids you alleged were child trafficked by Hillary Clinton did you take in? You know, do something instead of talking?

    Do you think this is propaganda?

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    I thought this thread might flush out some shit from you but fair play, this 10/10 standard.

    They're not all entering illegally.

    It's a trump policy. There's no law saying families must be separated.

    How many of the kids you alleged were child trafficked by Hillary Clinton did you take in? You know, do something instead of talking?

    Do you think this is propaganda?

  13. #13

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    More Fox propaganda.

    Laura Ingraham calls child detention centers "essentially summer camps"

    https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/s...94192175800321

  14. #14

    Re: Kids in America

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    More Fox propaganda.

    Laura Ingraham calls child detention centers "essentially summer camps"

    https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/s...94192175800321
    More class from Fox

    https://twitter.com/passantino/statu...20051172495361

    One of the commentators (a Trump election campaign manager, no less) makes a 'funny' sad trombone sound when being told about a 10 year old girl with Down Syndrome being separated from her mother at the border.

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    Re: Kids in America

    A question for lardy, what is the total number children involved, how many children were accompanied by a parent, and how many were unaccompanied. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    A question for lardy, what is the total number children involved, how many children were accompanied by a parent, and how many were unaccompanied. Thanks.
    “2,000 children separated from their parents in six weeks. Babies ripped from parents' arms. Tent cities. Mass trials. Suicides. Reports about what's happening to children and families who arrive at the US-Mexico border have shocked many, from White House reporters to conservative religious leaders.

    A Honduran woman told attorneys that her daughter was pulled from her as she was breastfeeding. After being separated from his wife and 3-year-old son, a Honduran man took his own life in a Texas jail cell.

    Colleen Kraft, the president of the American Academy for Pediatrics, recently described seeing a blotchy-faced toddler sobbing and pounding on a playmat, terrified because she'd been forcibly separated from her mother.“

    But it doesn’t matter they are not human beings they are beings from another world. That’s how the Nazis started.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8405901.html

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    Re: Kids in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    “2,000 children separated from their parents in six weeks. Babies ripped from parents' arms. Tent cities. Mass trials. Suicides. Reports about what's happening to children and families who arrive at the US-Mexico border have shocked many, from White House reporters to conservative religious leaders.

    A Honduran woman told attorneys that her daughter was pulled from her as she was breastfeeding. After being separated from his wife and 3-year-old son, a Honduran man took his own life in a Texas jail cell.

    Colleen Kraft, the president of the American Academy for Pediatrics, recently described seeing a blotchy-faced toddler sobbing and pounding on a playmat, terrified because she'd been forcibly separated from her mother.“

    But it doesn’t matter they are not human beings they are beings from another world. That’s how the Nazis started.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a8405901.html
    I know it's an emotional issue, but what is your solution if and when people start turning up in the tens and hundreds of thousands, or even in the millions from all around the world? How if 50,000 people turned up in Cardiff illegally? What is the end game? Personally I don't think an emotional solution will solve the problem. As we can see in Germany, opening up the borders hasn't worked out well.

    As much as I dislike what is happening in the world, you need workable solutions, and you can't ignore the political points scoring going on either. BTW What do you think about abortion? Millions of babies have been separated from their parents by having their lives terminated on a whim. Who is crying for them?

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    Re: Kids in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    A question for lardy, what is the total number children involved, how many children were accompanied by a parent, and how many were unaccompanied. Thanks.
    So, 2,000 children were accompanied by a parent, and 8,000 were unaccompanied? Is that correct?

  19. #19

    Re: Kids in America

    Meanwhile

    BREAKING: Trump administration plans to announce its withdrawal from UN Human Rights Council on Tuesday.

    What a man.

  20. #20

    Re: Kids in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    Meanwhile

    BREAKING: Trump administration plans to announce its withdrawal from UN Human Rights Council on Tuesday.

    What a man.
    Strange move considering he clearly doesn't see these people as human.

  21. #21

    Re: Kids in America

    So you're anti-abortion too, WalesBales? Out of interest, Mr I have no preference for right or left, do you have any views that aren't straight out of Fox?

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    Re: Kids in America

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    So you're anti-abortion too, WalesBales? Out of interest, Mr I have no preference for right or left, do you have any views that aren't straight out of Fox?
    I have not disclosed any views on abortion or separating children, I merely described the current scenario from a different perspective, so that you can see things from a different angle.

    BTW are you aware of the Ross D Franklin photographs that were taken during June 2014 Obamas era? They are remarkably similar the the image that you posted above?

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/ph...on-facilities/

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    Re: Kids in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    I have not disclosed any views on abortion or separating children, I merely described the current scenario from a different perspective, so that you can see things from a different angle.

    BTW are you aware of the Ross D Franklin photographs that were taken during June 2014 Obamas era? They are remarkably similar the the image that you posted above?

    http://dailycaller.com/2018/06/19/ph...on-facilities/
    You're right, you never quite disclose your views. Like when you linked to a Sandy Hook denier, and gushed over his credentials, and said that if anyone would know if it was a hoax it would be him, but you didn't quite disclose your view because you're a clever lad.

    And in this thread you've said the parents are lawbreakers so they're not going in 5 star hotels, and crossings are up threefold (since when?), and the situation is manipulated politically by the left, and it's not a Trump law, and the children may even be victims of trafficking, and everyone talking should go do something and let some of the kids stay in their house, and Hillary advocated for sending illegal immigrants home, and the alternative is the destruction of all western countries, and it's the left's fault, and a lot of the parents aren't even family, and you haven't once mentioned that it's incredibly sad, but you didn't quite disclose your view because you're a clever lad.

    You asked who was crying for aborted 'babies'? Mothers and families are. I assume you've never been in such a situation or you wouldn't use the word 'whim'.

    Yes, America has done lots of shitty things, including separating families in the past. I assume your point, because you're a clever lad, is going to be "why wasn't I complaining then?". The answer is, I didn't know about it and I would assume that's because it wasn't widely reported as it wasn't on such a huge scale and so scandalous as it is now. I also don't think previous presidents lied continually about the causes. BTW I can see parents in many of those photos.

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    Re: Kids in America

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    You're right, you never quite disclose your views. Like when you linked to a Sandy Hook denier, and gushed over his credentials, and said that if anyone would know if it was a hoax it would be him, but you didn't quite disclose your view because you're a clever lad.

    And in this thread you've said the parents are lawbreakers so they're not going in 5 star hotels, and crossings are up threefold (since when?), and the situation is manipulated politically by the left, and it's not a Trump law, and the children may even be victims of trafficking, and everyone talking should go do something and let some of the kids stay in their house, and Hillary advocated for sending illegal immigrants home, and the alternative is the destruction of all western countries, and it's the left's fault, and a lot of the parents aren't even family, and you haven't once mentioned that it's incredibly sad, but you didn't quite disclose your view because you're a clever lad.

    You asked who was crying for aborted 'babies'? Mothers and families are. I assume you've never been in such a situation or you wouldn't use the word 'whim'.

    Yes, America has done lots of shitty things, including separating families in the past. I assume your point, because you're a clever lad, is going to be "why wasn't I complaining then?". The answer is, I didn't know about it and I would assume that's because it wasn't widely reported as it wasn't on such a huge scale and so scandalous as it is now. I also don't think previous presidents lied continually about the causes. BTW I can see parents in many of those photos.
    If I give you some facts, then you can make up your own mind

  25. #25

    Re: Kids in America

    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    Oh Dear - Godwin's law and invoked sooner than I thought.
    Godwin's law (or Godwin's rule of Hitler analogies) is an internet adage asserting that "As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Hitler approaches 1"; that is, if an online discussion (regardless of topic or scope) goes on long enough, sooner or later someone will compare someone.

    Is there there a hitler type dictatorship type country anywhere in America - north or south ?, that is murdering pepople based on their race / religion ?
    Well Mr know it all. Even this Jewish doctor is worried. Now who do I side with or believe?

    https://twitter.com/avivadautch/stat...010036736?s=21

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