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  1. #61

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    I wish he'd sign an Executive Order to get his troops out of Syria
    A big problem is all the Obama holdovers dotted around the administration and government agencies. The amount of obstruction taking place is mind boggling, and it includes high levels of criminality. The President seems to be doing what he promised, but it is going to be a slow process. There are still clandestine forces in play who are trying to remove him from office using nefarious means.

  2. #62

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    #BREAKING Under the new Trump order, illegal immigrant families will be allowed to be kept together during legal proceedings, when the safety of the children can be guaranteed.

    Well done President Trump for overturning that nasty Bush/Obama law!
    But you seemed to think on page 1 that this was necessary to keep the borders safe. Trump has now opened the borders and the destruction of all western countries is nigh following your fanboy logic.

  3. #63

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    But you seemed to think on page 1 that this was necessary to keep the borders safe. Trump has now opened the borders and the destruction of all western countries is nigh following your fanboy logic.
    Expect a Fox News link presented as irrefutable evidence and that we should all go ‘fair play that’s told us’ very soon.

  4. #64

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    My god you really are a fanboy aren't you
    He’s neutral. He deals in facts. The ones exposed by every alt right website he quotes.

  5. #65

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    But you seemed to think on page 1 that this was necessary to keep the borders safe. Trump has now opened the borders and the destruction of all western countries is nigh following your fanboy logic.
    Yes, it is a deterrent the way the existing law is framed, as people were using kids to circumvent the law. That's why he wants to do a new deal! Build a wall, no more catch and release, prosecute illegal entry, i.e. control the border as per his campaign promise! And now the democrats are playing political football over the issue. They don't care about the kids, they are just using them as a political weopon.

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  7. #67

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    Ignoring all the brickbats for a moment. There was a very interesting piece on Radio AM just now. I cant be bothered to go into every detail - but the upshot of this is that the democrats have been positioned (due to their political stance on this) now become the party of 'let them all in' regardless , no checks etc - just let them in, which the correspondent seemed to think will work out very well in favour of Trump at the mid term elections coming up. Even though he is not a well liked President (no sh1t) , the economy is booming, jobs have been protected, unemployment is at an all time low etc.

    The downside being, like any o'level economics kid will tell you - the tarifs and more expensive goods has allowed inflation to creep in - currently running at 3% - which wont be sustainable for ever. Anyway back to the original point.

    This thread started as illegal immigrants from central america - and turn into tunnels for WW3 in Asda/Walmart - with the obvious deviation into Nazism and Hitler.....
    Last line 😃

    I agree about their economy doing well, he inherited a very good economy much like Labour did in 1997.

    Anyway there’s hope that he’ll avoid hell as he’s decided that separating kids from their parents was perhaps not the nicest thing .

  8. #68

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
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    I agree about their economy doing well, he inherited a very good economy much like Labour did in 1997.

    Anyway there’s hope that he’ll avoid hell as he’s decided that separating kids from their parents was perhaps not the nicest thing .
    The existing 1997 law has a 20 day limit and the democrats wouldn't change it because of political points the scoring. The new executive order removes that limit, so that the children can stay with their parents until their case is resolved, which they couldn't do under the Bush/Obama legislation.

  9. #69

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    Quote Originally Posted by ninianclark View Post
    There was a very interesting piece on Radio AM just now. I cant be bothered to go into every detail - but the upshot of this is that the democrats have been positioned (due to their political stance on this) now become the party of 'let them all in' regardless , no checks etc - just let them in, which the correspondent seemed to think will work out very well in favour of Trump at the mid term elections coming up. Even though he is not a well liked President (no sh1t) , the economy is booming, jobs have been protected, unemployment is at an all time low etc.
    Trump's The Art of the Deal beats Alinsky's Rules For Radicals every time Before you know it, the Democrats will be nominating Peter Fonda as their presidential candidate!


  10. #70

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    The forced separation policy was introduced by Sessions in April this year. When you see Trump or anyone else, including in this thread, blaming anything and anyone other than that, it is a complete lie. This is well documented.

    The way to stop it, as was said many times, is by Trump signing something and that is exactly what happened. It needed no input from anyone outside the trump administration.

  11. #71

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    The forced separation policy was introduced by Sessions in April this year. When you see Trump or anyone else, including in this thread, blaming anything and anyone other than that, it is a complete lie. This is well documented.

    The way to stop it, as was said many times, is by Trump signing something and that is exactly what happened. It needed no input from anyone outside the trump administration.
    Show me the law.

  12. #72

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Show me the law.
    What law?

  13. #73

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    You will find the law was passed in 1997 by Bush, and it is only for valid for 20 days, hence Trump wanted to fix it, but the Democrats said feck the kids, they prefer to play political games. Get your facts right buddy. The whole thing is a ruse to stop any ammendments to immigration law, i.e. they want illegal migrants to stream in by the millions, as they did in Germany.

  14. #74

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You will find the law was passed in 1997 by Bush, and it is only for valid for 20 days, hence Trump wanted to fix it, but the Democrats said feck the kids, they prefer to play political games. Get your facts right buddy. The whole thing is a ruse to stop any ammendments to immigration law, i.e. they want illegal migrants to stream in by the millions, as they did in Germany.
    Bush was Governor of Texas in 1997. Bush became President in 2001. Get your (really really really) basic facts right buddy.

    In 21 years, this only became a problem with Trump's policy change because the law never required family separation. Saying it needs Democrats to change it was a lie, and that's been proved by Trump signing an executive order to do exactly that.

    Stop spreading lies.

  15. #75

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    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
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    I agree about their economy doing well, he inherited a very good economy much like Labour did in 1997.

    Anyway there’s hope that he’ll avoid hell as he’s decided that separating kids from their parents was perhaps not the nicest thing .
    You are both wrong about the US economy. It has improved slightly since Trump came to office but real unemployment remains above 20%. I posted in another thread here all Trump's quotes since 2012 stating how fake the numbers are. Now he's bragging about 'the greatest economy ever' which he knows is a lie yet is not shy of repeating.

  16. #76

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Bush was Governor of Texas in 1997. Bush became President in 2001. Get your (really really really) basic facts right buddy.

    In 21 years, this only became a problem with Trump's policy change because the law never required family separation. Saying it needs Democrats to change it was a lie, and that's been proved by Trump signing an executive order to do exactly that.

    Stop spreading lies.
    To be honest I'm not really interested in all this BS nonsense, it's all immaterial now anyway, as Obama's communist fantasies are well and truly over. If you were paying attention, you would know that the intermediaries connecting the dirty FBI/DOJ agents to Clinton/Obama have been exposed. Yes, we are talking treason here, attempts to oust of a democratically elected president, and rig democratic elections. So carry on with your meaningless attempts of distraction, creating outrage, etc., the useful idiots are all that they have left

  17. #77

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    I think you've embarrassed yourself enough now, Gluey.

  18. #78

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    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    I think you've embarrassed yourself enough now, Gluey.
    Pissgate, Trump Russia Collusion, Stormy, Trump Foundation, Childrengate, so what's next? We need more outrage lardy!

  19. #79

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    Anyway, all's well that ends well!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Anyway, all's well that ends well!


  21. #81

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    Somebody had to do it. I was just waiting for all the crocodile tears to subside

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Somebody had to do it. I was just waiting for all the crocodile tears to subside
    Must admit it's gone through my head a few times this week

  23. #83

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mrs Steve R View Post
    Must admit it's gone through my head a few times this week
    Yeah, can't come across as being unsympathetic, we've got to show some compassion to lardy and friends who have had a very traumatic week!

  24. #84

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    Why do the Democrats want to give their country away? It's going to backfire for them in the November mid-term elections.

    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    We have to maintain strong borders or we will no longer have a country that we can be proud of – and if we show any weakness, millions of people will journey into our country.
    11:40 pm · 21 Jun 2018

    https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonal...28980475138048

  25. #85

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Yeah, can't come across as being unsympathetic, we've got to show some compassion to lardy and friends who have had a very traumatic week!
    Thank goodness there are people in this world who still have compassion and care for those less fortunate than themselves. Only right wing fascists and racists could make jokes about the suffering of children.

  26. #86

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    Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
    You cannot pass legislation on immigration whether it be for safety and security or any other reason including “heart,” without getting Dem votes. Problem is, they don’t care about security and R’s do. Zero Dems voted to support the Goodlatte Bill. They won’t vote for anything!
    4:57 pm - 21 Jun 2018

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...35968164630528

  27. #87

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    Thank goodness there are people in this world who still have compassion and care for those less fortunate than themselves. Only right wing fascists and racists could make jokes about the suffering of children.
    It's a Democrat game, don't fall for it.

    Kids were strapped up naked with paper bags over their heads on Obama's watch. Why are you explicitly trying to pin it on the right?

  28. #88

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auntie Andy View Post
    Thank goodness there are people in this world who still have compassion and care for those less fortunate than themselves. Only right wing fascists and racists could make jokes about the suffering of children.
    No, you've got it wrong, Gluey's a socialist, mind you he thinks the Democrats are socialists as well.

  29. #89

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Not really, I just deal in facts, who is doing what etc., How about you, are you a fanboy?
    Facts? Just saying things doesn't make them "facts".

  30. #90

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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    No, you've got it wrong, Gluey's a socialist, mind you he thinks the Democrats are socialists as well.
    Don't you mean a factualist? Remember the time I told you Senator John McCain was a wrong 'un?

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