It’s all about personal opinion I suppose, I personally don’t think I’ll ever see a better player than messi but there’s no point in arguing about it.Originally Posted by J R Hartley
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It’s all about personal opinion I suppose, I personally don’t think I’ll ever see a better player than messi but there’s no point in arguing about it.
Messi is looking a little jaded compared to his heyday. Bale has got 6 years on Ronaldo and it shows. Messi and Ronaldo are still great players, but they are not what they were, whereas Bale is just reaching his peak.
Is there any subject you aren't able to be profoundly wrong about? I think you have a talent
You really think bale can carry on the length of time Ronald has
The debate for both in their prime is a different debate. Id probably lean towards Messi, because theres no finer sight in football than a player dribbling past players for fun. However, I dont think he has that same explosion he had in his younger days, and so that is why I lean to Ronaldo currently because age has not slowed him down, and if anything he is still in his peak.
In the last 2 years the number of big games Ronaldo has done the business, for club and country, is obscene.
Given the choice between Messi and Ronaldo, I would choose Bale right now.
There's no need to decide who is better, they're both incredible. Argentina have been awful, by their high standards, for a few years now. Messi got them to qualify with one of his best ever performances but they just aren't good enough against teams that know how to defend.
Give it a rest will you! You haven’t got a scooby when it comes to football and you ain’t funny
Bale has just won the fecking Champions League with a wonder strike soon after he came on. Why would I choose Ronaldo or Messi ahead of him right now? Bale is probably the most effective player in the world at the moment.
But it's all connected Bob. One of the reasons Guardiola chooses to play short football in triangles through the lines is because this enables them to defend more effectively when they lose the ball.
In the clips above there are huge chasms in midfield which allow Croatia to bear down on the defenders before the "midfield" react.
Wow supermodels don't go for intelligence these days!
Do yourself a favour and put him on ignore it’s the best thing I ever did.
I was always against ignoring people on here but if you were in the pub and some weirdo kept shouting out complete bollocks you’d ignore them so why not on here.
The man has never been right about anything and only posts complete and utter shite about every single topic in every single thread.
What has that got to do with it? You brought Messi into it and he is not a striker. You were talking about Ballon D'or and being the best player
To be fair Isco is not a match winner like the other 3 mate.
Well spottedI would expect to see a bigger push from PSG and Man City in the CL next season, so not even sure if the trophy will be staying in Spain.
The Balon d'Or always goes to the goalscorers if you hadn't noticed. How many did Iniesta win again?
But it's not about number 9s
Gringo, I had to defend Messi on twitter this morning, because someone was claiming he is not as good as Modric
I love Modric but the over reaction to two poor games from Messi in this world cup is ridiculous
Luckily Bale and Ronaldo can play across all front 3 positions, that's what makes them so valuable.
Imagine how I feel today mate. I spend half my waking hours defending him on here, I've had to stay away from twitter!Gringo, I had to defend Messi on twitter this morning, because someone was claiming he is not as good as Modric
I love Modric but the over reaction to two poor games from Messi in this world cup is ridiculous
There is no hard fast answers to the Ronaldo vs Messi thing like I said the other day.
It comes down to how you view football. I'd expect a lot of British fans to prefer Ronaldo cos they've been brought up with the belief that players with power and pace are the best whereas I'd expect more Southern European and South American fans to believe Messi is better cos they see football as more of an art.
One thing I will say is that as someone who is such a fan of Whitts I'd expect you to like Messi more.
Modric is probably the best midfielder around at the moment but I don't think he is as good as Xavi and Iniesta in their prime.
There isn't an answer to it because it's subjective, I don't understand why anyone cares which one of them is better and can't just appreciate that they're both unbelievable players.
The whole "pace and power vs art" comment is probably one of the most pretentious things I've ever read too ffs, what a load of cock
I have always been one who has been an advocate of the old "Maradona won the world cup on his own" argument, but when I said this I didn't expect people to interpret that as Maradona did all the defending, all the link up play, scored all the goals etc.
What I mean by this is that Maradona was THE creative spark that was the difference for Argentina.
He had to have a platform to do this and he wouldn't be able to win the world cup with Grimsby Town ffs.
From what I have seen in this world cup, besides Saudi Arabia I think Argentina have been the poorest team in the competition, with no shape, purpose or desire. You could put Messi and Ronaldo in that team together and they still wouldn't win anything!
Believe what you like but the number of times Ronaldo shoots when he has better options is incredible. Technically there are many players better than him but he is very very effective and a lot of that is down to his athleticismThere isn't an answer to it because it's subjective, I don't understand why anyone cares which one of them is better and can't just appreciate that they're both unbelievable players.
The whole "pace and power vs art" comment is probably one of the most pretentious things I've ever read too ffs, what a load of cock
I don’t care pal. No horse in this race for me.
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