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Puts the home nations poppy-gate into perspective.
good on the players imho
the Serb coach doesnt really help the matter with his statement " "It deserves to be condemned by the whole football world," Kokeza added. "It was not the only provocation by the Swiss players. One sufficient detail was the football boots of one of their players - the boots had a flag of a non-existing country displayed on them. " pretty sure the kosovans would argue they became independent 10 years ago
I think that might be the crux of their disagreement.Originally Posted by blue matt
good on the players imho
the Serb coach doesnt really help the matter with his statement " "It deserves to be condemned by the whole football world," Kokeza added. "It was not the only provocation by the Swiss players. One sufficient detail was the football boots of one of their players - the boots had a flag of a non-existing country displayed on them. " pretty sure the kosovans would argue they became independent 10 years ago
FIFA and UEFA would appear to disagree with him as well.good on the players imho
the Serb coach doesnt really help the matter with his statement " "It deserves to be condemned by the whole football world," Kokeza added. "It was not the only provocation by the Swiss players. One sufficient detail was the football boots of one of their players - the boots had a flag of a non-existing country displayed on them. " pretty sure the kosovans would argue they became independent 10 years ago
So the hand (twin eagle) jesture was just a bit of friendly banter ... like Rangers players have done to Celtic fans in the past?
Gazza received death threats after his goal celebration ...good on the players imho
the Serb coach doesnt really help the matter with his statement " "It deserves to be condemned by the whole football world," Kokeza added. "It was not the only provocation by the Swiss players. One sufficient detail was the football boots of one of their players - the boots had a flag of a non-existing country displayed on them. " pretty sure the kosovans would argue they became independent 10 years ago
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Xhaka and Shaqiri will probably pray that the Serbian supporters will not be wound up so much.
Xhaka & Xherdan Shaqiri face bans over goal celebrations.
I've no idea why you've said that in reply to my post.
Apologies for confusion ... my original post was meant to highlight the hand jestures which were far more provocative than any national flag stitched onto a boot.
When Wales played Serbia in 2013 (I think) a few of the Serbian fans were dressed in Military gear and one had a board naming a town in Croatia where a particulary brutal battle took place during the civil war.
I was working that game and they didn’t appear to happy when told to remove the board!
Age old brutality in that region that isn’t going to disappear for a few generations.
As a conflict it challenge the word of human.
Those players are a disgrace, as thousands died, they should be banned and sent home now , bloody hell, people on either side were slaughtered, tortured ,innocents in villages pillaged , and they want to make a hand gesture statement, privalged tossers.
EXACTLY what I tried to get across in my OP
Xherdan Shaqiri was a war refugee as a result of Serbian actions, so very privileged
I am not a historian, but I doubt whether in the course of time whether the atrocities were as one sided as you imply. There is no place for any celebration in football that refers to civil war.Xherdan Shaqiri was a war refugee as a result of Serbian actions, so very privileged
Imagine an English player doing something relating to WW1 or WW2 in a match with Germany ... is that acceptable?
I doubt many English players would have been directly affected by it though.
I don’t know much about it but I always thought it was the serbs who were the aggressors?
He should know better then , actions / gestures simply inflame and keep hatred live .Xherdan Shaqiri was a war refugee as a result of Serbian actions, so very privileged
Im guessing he knew that .
And yes he's in a privileged postion and being better than this .
The 3 players from kosovo were booed every time they touched the ball by the Serbian fans the hatred was already alive.
As well as booing the anthem, getting the Albanian flag banned from the stadium and singing “kill all Albanians”
But it’s not like it was a hate symbol just the symbol of their place of birth after getting dogs abuse all match for being from there.
If you've got a spare couple of hours have a look at the documentary 'The weight of chains' a real eye opener
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waEYQ46gH08
This is worth reading too http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RA...TO/bosnia.html
Cheers I’m travelling home tomorrow so that’ll give me something to do 👍
Heard a story (probably known to some on here) where man was cleared of anti-sectarian violence for punching Neil Lennon and as the crown hadn't charged him with assault got off.....despite being photographed punching Lennon in the face!
Their fans do enough of it.
How many of the England squad were directly affected by those wars the way Shaqiri has been?
Where is this implication in my post? I'm just saying why Shaqiri would do it
The hate was very much alive before his celebration
The sectarian attack case wasnt proven. Neither guilty or not guilty.
He was jailed for over 6 months for invading the pitch. He also received a long term banning order.
I visited the Museum of Genocide in Bosnia last year and it is pretty harrowing. Inflaming tensions in a football match is best avoided,
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