Morrissey cancels tour over racism issues

[The Lone Gunman]

I just find it hard to believe that someone who all his life has strongly opposed cruelty against animals - to the extent one of his albums was called Meat is Murder, and he bans meat being sold at venues he performs in - could possibly be racist and cruel against human beings.

Hitler loved animals too.....

[Baker]

Hitler loved animals too.....

Fair point!

However, I've read a lot about what others who've worked and grew up with him have to say about him, and racist is definitely not one of the words they'd describe. Mainly just difficult to deal with or sheltered.

[Pearcey3]

He's not supporting Tommy Robinson's views, he's opposing the way in which jailing Tommy Robinson goes against free speech.

I just find it hard to believe that someone who all his life has strongly opposed cruelty against animals - to the extent one of his albums was called Meat is Murder, and he bans meat being sold at venues he performs in - could possibly be racist and cruel against human beings.

The For Britain support, however, I admit is strange and out of character. I don't think he's in a good place right now and age is clearly not working well for him.

He strongly backs Waters who really is a piece of work. She was too far to the right for even UKIP. I liked The Smiths but in this day and age with all the anti Muslim stuff going around I can’t say it bothers me if I don’t hear anything from Morrisey again.

[Eric the Half a Bee]

He's not supporting Tommy Robinson's views, he's opposing the way in which jailing Tommy Robinson goes against free speech.

His actions could have caused a court case to collapse. He pleaded guilty to the charges against him. How on earth does jailing him go against free speech when the charge was contempt of court after he knowledgeably broke the law?

(As an aside, how come he's never stood outside the courts of white rapists?)

[Badly Ironed Shirt]

He's not supporting Tommy Robinson's views, he's opposing the way in which jailing Tommy Robinson goes against free speech.

Jailing Tommy Smith is not an attack on free speech. It's a way of stopping the cretin ruining a trial and seeing the alleged perpetrators walk away scot free because he's jeopardised the procedure.

[lardy]

Jailing Tommy Smith is not an attack on free speech. It's a way of stopping the cretin ruining a trial and seeing the alleged perpetrators walk away scot free because he's jeopardised the procedure.

Tommy Smith is too beautiful to go to jail, they'll ruin him.

[Croesy Blue]

Exactly I find it hard to respect someone’s opinion when that opinion is like that on anyone who isn’t white or British.

[The Bob Banker Spanker]

Seen an interview with Mike Joyce a few weeks back and the interviewer was essentially prodding or trying to prod Joyce into saying that Morrissey is a racist.
To be fair to Joyce, he didn't take the bait and said the dealings he's had with Morrissey (albeit a long time ago) suggest he isn't a racist person at all.
Bit of a joke though to be fair, the interviewer was a right prick.
Joyce was a class act though, had Morrissey's back and it was surprising seeing as there has been bad blood between the two before.

[Baker]

Seen an interview with Mike Joyce a few weeks back and the interviewer was essentially prodding or trying to prod Joyce into saying that Morrissey is a racist.
To be fair to Joyce, he didn't take the bait and said the dealings he's had with Morrissey (albeit a long time ago) suggest he isn't a racist person at all.
Bit of a joke though to be fair, the interviewer was a right prick.
Joyce was a class act though, had Morrissey's back and it was surprising seeing as there has been bad blood between the two before.

Fairly sure they're all on good terms with each other with the exception of Andy Rourke the weasel.

Johnny Marr and Morrissey exchange emails from time to time - should read Marr's book. He has nothing but good things to say about Moz.

That was a frustrating interview by the way - interviewer was a complete neanderthal.

[NYCBlue]

Fairly sure they're all on good terms with each other with the exception of Andy Rourke the weasel.

Johnny Marr and Morrissey exchange emails from time to time - should read Marr's book. He has nothing but good things to say about Moz.

That was a frustrating interview by the way - interviewer was a complete neanderthal.

You're talking out of your arse. I know Andy Rourke. Him and Johnny are mates.

[Baker]

You're talking out of your arse. I know Andy Rourke. Him and Johnny are mates.

I meant Mike Joyce sorry. The drummer who sued them.

[NYCBlue]

I meant Mike Joyce sorry. The drummer who sued them.

Fair enough.

If there ever were to be a Smiths reunion, Mike Joyce won't be a part of it.

[The Bob Banker Spanker]

I find it hard to believe Morrissey is really a fan of the fox hunting Farage as well.

[xsnaggle]

for christ's sake,there is some crap posted on here sometimes.
the man is just someone who earns his living singing songs, nothing else. Who gives a toss what his politics are?
would Sludge demand to know a bus driver's politics and refuse to get on the bus if he turned out to be a 'Tory'?

All this faux angst is really quite vomit inducing. so he cancelled a tour, big deal. go and watch someone else!!

[The Lone Gunman]

for christ's sake,there is some crap posted on here sometimes.

And you are particularly proficient at adding to it.

[xsnaggle]

And you are particularly proficient at adding to it.

says the man who comes on here and pontificates as if he is the fecking oracle.

[Croesy Blue]

Would you listen to the lost prophets though? I know that’s an extreme example but how far do you go when separating the art from the artist?

And why would it be faux anger?

for christ's sake,there is some crap posted on here sometimes.
the man is just someone who earns his living singing songs, nothing else. Who gives a toss what his politics are?
would Sludge demand to know a bus driver's politics and refuse to get on the bus if he turned out to be a 'Tory'?

All this faux angst is really quite vomit inducing. so he cancelled a tour, big deal. go and watch someone else!!

[Baker]

Would you listen to the lost prophets though? I know that’s an extreme example but how far do you go when separating the art from the artist?

And why would it be faux anger?

That is an extreme example - just as you said! Pointless comparing the two.

[Croesy Blue]

Fairly sure they're all on good terms with each other with the exception of Andy Rourke the weasel.

Johnny Marr and Morrissey exchange emails from time to time - should read Marr's book. He has nothing but good things to say about Moz.

That was a frustrating interview by the way - interviewer was a complete neanderthal.

He published all these views on his own website though, not just in an interview.

[Baker]

He published all these views on his own website though, not just in an interview.

I'm aware. However, on his website he says he's categorically not racist, and has many muslim friends. It's honestly shown how much the public's minds can be influenced by tabloids reporting only what they want to report, rather than looking at the bigger picture.

Morrissey - jokingly - compared the left to Hitler. A crude joke, but not something that is uncharacteristic of him (& his notoriously witty lyrics). Obviously this is the only part of the interview the Independent & Guardian chose to quote. It's ludicrous and vicious from two tabloids with a clear agenda against the bloke, just because he doesn't like their newspapers and openly says so.

I reiterate the fact that bands and artists these days don't have the minerals to do the same, as they're so afraid it'll affect album sales.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

I'm aware. However, on his website he says he's categorically not racist, and has many muslim friends. It's honestly shown how much the public's minds can be influenced by tabloids reporting only what they want to report, rather than looking at the bigger picture.

Morrissey - jokingly - compared the left to Hitler. A crude joke, but not something that is uncharacteristic of him (& his notoriously witty lyrics). Obviously this is the only part of the interview the Independent & Guardian chose to quote. It's ludicrous and vicious from two tabloids with a clear agenda against the bloke, just because he doesn't like their newspapers and openly says so.

I reiterate the fact that bands and artists these days don't have the minerals to do the same, as they're so afraid it'll affect album sales.

I’m not a racist, I have many Muslim friends. Jesus. I love his music and the Smiths but his backing of Anne Marie Walters and his extremely offensive comments about Sadiq Khan not being able to speak English is a joke. He’s a nasty piece of work who’s completely lost the plot.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.p...-properly/amp/

[Croesy Blue]

That is an extreme example - just as you said! Pointless comparing the two.

It wasn’t a comparison though it’s an extreme example of the same point. How far do you go with it? Would you watch Mel Gibson films or roman Polanski? It’s an interesting debate.

[Baker]

It wasn’t a comparison though it’s an extreme example of the same point. How far do you go with it? Would you watch Mel Gibson films or roman Polanski? It’s an interesting debate.

I can see what you're getting at...

But paedophilia and antisemitism is a lot different to genuine and harmless political opinions.

[Croesy Blue]

I’m not sure id call dog whistle racism harmless in the current climate.

Ive got no problem with anyone enjoying his music still but the man is a massive twat.

[Baker]

I’m not sure id call dog whistle racism harmless in the current climate.

Ive got no problem with anyone enjoying his music still but the man is a massive twat.

I've read Marr's book, Morrissey's book and multiple biographies and literature regarding The Smiths, Morrissey, Rough Trade etc. I've read all of his recent interviews and watched and read a lot of interviews he's done in the past.

I just don't believe he is racist in the slightest.