BoJo go byebyes

[the other bob wilson]

They are all too shit scared of the 52% to just tell the truth.

If there was a way off offering what people were told they were voting for (no free movement, free frictionless trade, make our own laws, no paying what we owe historically and no economic hit) then one of the brexiteers would have tabled it.

One of the myths that has grown up over the past two years is that all of the 52% voted for a particular kind of Brexit. That's just not true - people were basically asked do you like a particular organisation and less than half of the country when you go by those entitled to vote said they didn't. so this view carried the day.
There were all sorts of reasons why the 52% voted the way they did, some of them fueled by ignorance because of the abysmal standard of the debate on both sides, but no matter what sort of Brexit we end up with, there are going to be large numbers within the 52 % that won't be happy with the outcome.
What was needed was an informed national debate which could have taken months, or even years if need be. Instead we got ludicrous scaremongering on the one side and complete fantasy on the other as the most important decision this country faced since the second world war was rushed through to try and end a schism that has divided the governing party for decades, while the official opposition sat on it's hands hoping that no one would notice that they were riven by the same divide that afflicts the tories.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

One of the myths that has grown up over the past two years is that all of the 52% voted for a particular kind of Brexit. That's just not true - people were basically asked do you like a particular organisation and less than half of the country when you go by those entitled to vote said they didn't. so this view carried the day.
There were all sorts of reasons why the 52% voted the way they did, some of them fueled by ignorance because of the abysmal standard of the debate on both sides, but no matter what sort of Brexit we end up with, there are going to be large numbers within the 52 % that won't be happy with the outcome.
What was needed was an informed national debate which could have taken months, or even years if need be. Instead we got ludicrous scaremongering on the one side and complete fantasy on the other as the most important decision this country faced since the second world war was rushed through to try and end a schism that has divided the governing party for decades, while the official opposition sat on it's hands hoping that no one would notice that they were riven by the same divide that afflicts the tories.

Excellent synopsis, TOBW.

[life on mars]

Excellent synopsis, TOBW.

yes indeed , its interesting the new deal, is closer to most peoples opinions than ever before within parliament , I watched an listened to a few Labour MP's being asked that last night and there was a very uncomfortable wriggle reply as they do have there own splits,I wonder what would happen if one side or the other went to the country for a mandate ?

May could now see some calm , and Europe could now perhaps tray and do a deal , if they don't I'm pretty sure this Europe thinks by not agreeing or compromising they too are trying to force an election in the UK ,which in all probability will end up the same again 52/ 48 ,and on we go, and on we go , Friday is a big day in my view as the compromise will be with them followed by a decision on the 20 the I believe.