Ot- guy murders his wife and calls the police

[Harry Monk]

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I think on average around 600 people are murdered in England and Wales every year, out of almost 60,000,000 people that's around 0.001 percent. I think you're safe.

There were 709 homicides recorded in Wales and England in the 12 months up to March 2017, that's a 25% increase compared to 12 months up to 2016. That figure includes the 96 Hillsborough victims. If the Hillsborough victims are taken out of the fugures, there is still an 8% increase.

I can't find the clear up rates for Homicide at the moment, but they have usually been around the 95% mark in the past.

[lardy]

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There were 709 homicides recorded in Wales and England in the 12 months up to March 2017, that's a 25% increase compared to 12 months up to 2016. That figure includes the 96 Hillsborough victims. If the Hillsborough victims are taken out of the fugures, there is still an 8% increase.

I can't find the clear up rates for Homicide at the moment, but they have usually been around the 95% mark in the past.

I assume that includes terrorist attacks too?

[Harry Monk]

I assume that includes terrorist attacks too?

Yes. There were 5 terrorist homicides between 1st April 2016 and 31st March 2017.

[lardy]

Yes. There were 5 terrorist homicides between 1st April 2016 and 31st March 2017.

Thanks. The Ariana Grande attack must account for a lot of the increase then.

[Rjk]

Thanks. The Ariana Grande attack must account for a lot of the increase then.

Yeah individual events can skew the numbers a lot. They count all the Harold Shipman murders in one year as well

[Harry Monk]

Thanks. The Ariana Grande attack must account for a lot of the increase then.

No, that occurred after 31st March 2017. The above figures (709) relate to 1st April 2016 - 31st March 2017. The figures for 1st April 2017 - 31st March 2018 haven't been released yet as far as I can see.

[lardy]

No, that occurred after 31st March 2017. The above figures (709) relate to 1st April 2016 - 31st March 2017. The figures for 1st April 2017 - 31st March 2018 haven't been released yet as far as I can see.

Ah right. Can expect a hike then, with the London Bridge one too.

[Harry Monk]

Ah right. Can expect a hike then, with the London Bridge one too.

There may be a slight increase, but the 1980's was the worst period in the UK for terrorist homicides.

[Pedro de la Rosa]

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There were 709 homicides recorded in Wales and England in the 12 months up to March 2017, that's a 25% increase compared to 12 months up to 2016. That figure includes the 96 Hillsborough victims. If the Hillsborough victims are taken out of the fugures, there is still an 8% increase.

I can't find the clear up rates for Homicide at the moment, but they have usually been around the 95% mark in the past.

There's always going to be a large variance when you're dealing with 709 incidents with a population of about 60m.

[Rjk]

i

There were 709 homicides recorded in Wales and England in the 12 months up to March 2017, that's a 25% increase compared to 12 months up to 2016. That figure includes the 96 Hillsborough victims. If the Hillsborough victims are taken out of the fugures, there is still an 8% increase.

I can't find the clear up rates for Homicide at the moment, but they have usually been around the 95% mark in the past.

In the 1890s there were around 300 reported homicides a year in the UK, and the UK population was about 20 something million.

[Harry Monk]

In the 1890s there were around 300 reported homicides a year in the UK, and the UK population was about 20 something million.

Many murders in the late 19th Century were recorded as natural causes as forensic science was still in its infancy. Unless there were visible signs of trauma it was very difficult to say it had been a murder. In contrast, as forensic science developed a number of poisoning cases were recorded as murder, however re-examination of some of these cases more recently has shown they may have been caused by arsenic which was used in everyday items such as wall paper and paint.