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    No Deal Brexit.

    Yesterday’s announcements appear to suggest that there is a likelihood of this. I don’t pretend to be an economist but I can’t help think of the chaos this is going to cause at ports and the Irish border.

    I really don’t think a lot of people thought this through when voting leave the potential bunch of arse this is going to be.

  2. #2

    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    That's because they were repeatedly told it'll all be cool, money will go to the NHS, they need us more than we need them, everything will be good to go the day after, we can get all the deals tied up in two years, etc etc

    And some people believed it.

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    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    And some people believed it.
    Trump Russia Collusion? I never believed it even though you tried your hardest to make me (and everybody else) believe it

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    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    We're all doomed

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    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogersblue View Post
    We're all doomed
    Yay

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    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Yesterday’s announcements appear to suggest that there is a likelihood of this. I don’t pretend to be an economist but I can’t help think of the chaos this is going to cause at ports and the Irish border.

    I really don’t think a lot of people thought this through when voting leave the potential bunch of arse this is going to be.
    WW1 & WW2 was a bunch of arse, but we got through it to live a much better life. Never underestimate the human spirit

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    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    WW1 & WW2 was a bunch of arse, but we got through it to live a much better life. Never underestimate the human spirit
    So you think we all may be worse off for a while?

    Didn't see that on the side of a bus

  8. #8

    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Veg1960 View Post
    So you think we all may be worse off for a while?

    Didn't see that on the side of a bus
    Cardiff Irish did say a "potential" bunch of arse, so who knows. What if the EU collapses with us inside of it, that could potentially be an even worse scenario.

  9. #9

    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    WW1 & WW2 was a bunch of arse, but we got through it to live a much better life. Never underestimate the human spirit
    And there we have it. Financial experts opinions - bollocks. Independent fiscal organisations opinions - bollocks. British spirit - winner.

    Out of interest, would you be happy to vote Brexit if it meant a family member (or more) losing their jobs, and if so, would you be happy to tell them to their face that their loss of livelihood is "worth it"?

    This is entirely the problem with Brexit.

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    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    And there we have it. Financial experts opinions - bollocks. Independent fiscal organisations opinions - bollocks. British spirit - winner.

    Out of interest, would you be happy to vote Brexit if it meant a family member (or more) losing their jobs, and if so, would you be happy to tell them to their face that their loss of livelihood is "worth it"?

    This is entirely the problem with Brexit.
    Brexit, remain, austerity, etc., all have their winners and losers, that is a fact of political decisions, but should we apologise to everybody who fall on the wrong side of the will of the people? What about all the people who have died in wars defending British sovereignty and our democratic freedoms? Should we tell their families they all died in vein?

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    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Brexit, remain, austerity, etc., all have their winners and losers, that is a fact of political decisions, but should we apologise to everybody who fall on the wrong side of the will of the people? What about all the people who have died in wars defending British sovereignty and our democratic freedoms? Should we tell their families they all died in vein?
    That doesn't answer the question posed, like virtually all of your answers.

  12. #12

    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Brexit, remain, austerity, etc., all have their winners and losers, that is a fact of political decisions, but should we apologise to everybody who fall on the wrong side of the will of the people? What about all the people who have died in wars defending British sovereignty and our democratic freedoms? Should we tell their families they all died in vein?

    Edit: I'll take that reply back.

    You appear to be suggesting that people don't matter. If things go tits up and people suffer, then fine. You are also suggesting that tossing people into more poverty against their will in order that democracy wins is on a par with innocent people losing their lives in war. I don't agree with that, I also think it's disgraceful to even make an inaccurate comparison like that. People lost their lives in war which was not the result of a referendum. Here there's a political choice - people or an ideologically driven desire to turn the UK into a tax haven sweat shop. You would rather politicians make people suffer than do the right thing for them. I think that makes you a complete and utter odious right-wing tosspot

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    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Edit: I'll take that reply back.

    You appear to be suggesting that people don't matter. If things go tits up and people suffer, then fine. You are also suggesting that tossing people into more poverty against their will in order that democracy wins is on a par with innocent people losing their lives in war. I don't agree with that, I also think it's disgraceful to even make an inaccurate comparison like that. People lost their lives in war which was not the result of a referendum. Here there's a political choice - people or an ideologically driven desire to turn the UK into a tax haven sweat shop. You would rather politicians make people suffer than do the right thing for them. I think that makes you a complete and utter odious right-wing tosspot
    Thousands of sick and disabled people have died because of austerity and nobody on here gave a toss about them. It seems like you want to pick and choose your battles, depending on how you see them affecting you personally. Good thing you didn't find yourself suffering from chronic ill health then. BTW Corbyn is Brexiteer, as are many labour voters, so I don't know where you got the idea that Brexit is a right-wing ideology.

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    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    WW1 & WW2 was a bunch of arse, but we got through it to live a much better life. Never underestimate the human spirit
    Just revisiting this.

    Did you live through world war 1 and world war 2 then?

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    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Just revisiting this.

    Did you live through world war 1 and world war 2 then?
    Through my genes, yes. A few made the ultimate sacrifice too. They'll be turning in their graves, knowing that people like you want to give it all away.

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    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Through my genes, yes. A few made the ultimate sacrifice too. They'll be turning in their graves, knowing that people like you want to give it all away.
    What did your genes think about their experiences in the Stone Age?

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    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    What did your genes think about their experiences in the Stone Age?
    They though it was quite nice. If any intruders entered your cave with the intention of doing harm to you and your family, you could club the feckers over the head without any interference from the moral superiority brigade

  18. #18

    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Through my genes, yes. A few made the ultimate sacrifice too. They'll be turning in their graves, knowing that people like you want to give it all away.
    So no you didn’t then.

  19. #19

    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    My major German customer has requested that we pay a £4million "no deal" bond, basically it's the equivalent of pulling forward April & May 2019 orders by 2 months and then no orders for 2 months. They've done this with all their UK suppliers. We have to do it as the consequential loss penalties are far greater. It's fecking disastrous due to the premier costs in the pull forward of the global supply chain & what we do with 100+ staff who'll have no work for 2 months.

  20. #20

    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    My major German customer has requested that we pay a £4million "no deal" bond, basically it's the equivalent of pulling forward April & May 2019 orders by 2 months and then no orders for 2 months. They've done this with all their UK suppliers. We have to do it as the consequential loss penalties are far greater. It's fecking disastrous due to the premier costs in the pull forward of the global supply chain & what we do with 100+ staff who'll have no work for 2 months.
    Sorry to hear that mate, sounds like a lot of stress.

    Exactly why I ****ing hate the bullshit espoused by Brexiteers who were telling all how easy and painless this process would be.

  21. #21

    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    Sorry to hear that mate, sounds like a lot of stress.

    Exactly why I ****ing hate the bullshit espoused by Brexiteers who were telling all how easy and painless this process would be.
    That's terrible, Des.

    Cardiffirish, I'd disagree with you there. Brexit will be easy and painless but only for a few. You can guess who (Farage, ReesMogg, to name but two).

  22. #22

    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    My major German customer has requested that we pay a £4million "no deal" bond, basically it's the equivalent of pulling forward April & May 2019 orders by 2 months and then no orders for 2 months. They've done this with all their UK suppliers. We have to do it as the consequential loss penalties are far greater. It's fecking disastrous due to the premier costs in the pull forward of the global supply chain & what we do with 100+ staff who'll have no work for 2 months.
    This is the reality of the shambolic Brexit dealings by this useless Govt. it will only get worse.

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    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    This is the reality of the shambolic Brexit dealings by this useless Govt. it will only get worse.
    And the people who voted set this up , the opposition party ,and the Europeans

  24. #24

    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    And the people who voted set this up , the opposition party ,and the Europeans
    ‘the people who voted set this up’
    My conscience is clear mate I votes remain as I thought the Brexit process would be a monumental pain in the arse with no tangible benefits.

    I still haven’t seen anything else otherwise.

  25. #25

    Re: No Deal Brexit.

    Quote Originally Posted by CardiffIrish2 View Post
    ‘the people who voted set this up’
    My conscience is clear mate I votes remain as I thought the Brexit process would be a monumental pain in the arse with no tangible benefits.

    I still haven’t seen anything else otherwise.
    There is one, and it's a big one. Having our laws passed by an accountable British parliament who we can vote out, as opposed to a small group of unaccountable and unelected bureaucrats in Brussels. We will be thanked by future generations for this simple act of foresight.

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