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Watching MoTD at the moment, the front 4-6 rows of the Bob Bank are probably 40% empty.Originally Posted by Auntie Andy
Funny seeing Warnock, who was whinging about the PL last season, now whinging about the Championship and not missing it. Linekar said "Not a great game" (is he trolling you Mike?) .
That was my opinion too, I only watched about half an hour live on TV then decided to switch channels. Only just watching MoTD because I have a day off work.
Great update.
Thanks, it is on subject but no doubt some see it as a trolling exercise.
Two very poor teams, I thought Newcastle would be alright this season. Now, I'm not so sure.
It’s fine of course to comment on games. But we’ll clearly need a bit more time to make general assessments.
I thought you might have got over your obsession with a club you no longer support. But now I'm not so sure.
I've never supported Newcastle.
You watched "about half an hour" of the game and made your decision that it wasn't great?
Well done
In fairness, I saved myself 60 minutes plus half time because most reports say it wasn't a good game. In fact, the only people I see raving about the games are on this board! As someone on the radio said "seeing Warnock celebrating a 0-0 against a 10 man Newcastle suggests a long hard season ahead". The highlights I saw suggest I missed little too - unless the BBC are trying to make Cardiff look poor? Maybe some will believe that.You watched "about half an hour" of the game and made your decision that it wasn't great?
Well done
MotD did miss a few things actually - most notably NML blasting high and wide from the edge of the 6 yard box when he should have done anything else... and also Shelvey stopping an open goal opportunity with a last ditch slided-clearance over the bar. They were two important moments in the match that must not have been worthy of a highlights package.
Maybe do yourself a favour in the future and don't watch any of their televised games (even a whole 30mins!).
I doubt that you will find any joy in watching City play these days - unless they get trounced, possibly.
The crowd were urging Warnock to do his fist-pump at the end of the game when he went over to them. Just an end of match ritual.
I was watching on Sky - I think it was about 15 minutes into the game, and we turned off at half time.
You really are a grade A berk who doesnt deserve the time of day. Bog off and bother someone elses board.
For a fourth time - I'm going to keep on asking until I get an answer from you;-
"So you are the person we all assume you are then? Tell me, what do you think you would have said to someone who told you in 2008 that in ten years time, you'd be doing what you do now on here when Cardiff City are playing in the Premier League, wearing blue shirts, had an owner who has converted over £70 million worth of club debt into equity over the summer and were going ahead with a new training base?"
OK, this is the FIRST time I've seen this question, and I am wondering if this is better suited for PMs - but since you are seeking something more public, I'll resist the temptation to have another thread hijacked by the usual culprits (you in this case) and PM you my response . You could have dropped me an e-mail, it's the same address that I used when I spent a good number of hours proof-reading your very fine book.
That's the very reason I'm asking that question in public, I've tried to understand your motivation, but I give up.
My motivation is old-fashioned. I think people should behave responsibly, and that irresponsible actions should be met with an apology. Amazingly. my motivation is not derived from on the field success, nor from big transfer fees, cup finals, and all the other jazz that football fans can't live without these days. Not sure why you are replying in this thread seeing as I have sent you a PM to avoid this thread turning into something that it didn't start off as, and to avoid another ban. But, seeing as you are intent on it being public, here was my response.
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For once, you have managed to condense the last 6 years into such succinctity that you have missed some crucial things with regards to recent history at the club. The very fact that you need to mention that the club is now wearing blue shirts, and indicate it as a positive thing sort of misses the point but succinctly proves the point. I have noticed you've become somewhat something of a revisionist in recent years. Nowhere, not even in your revisionist summary of a question, has anyone mentioned that Tan has still not apologised for his behaviour between 2012- (when? the appointment of Warnock?). Behaviour that resulted (regardless of the precise number) in people no longer spending money at a business he runs. It's all ok now though, the club are almost able to sell out a home Premier League game at the start of a Premier League season.
What I am doing is what I have always done on this message board (since about 1997, when crowds were shit and fans were less protective of a run-down club), whether that be as Euclid, Kaiser Jirga II or Badly ironed Shirt or (because of a webmaster who doesn't even understand the meaning of the word "trolling") Kris - give my opinions. In the past, on this very board, I was labelled a gay for speaking against people like ***** Abraham. I also received an "invitation" to see Hammam because of my opinions of his spending. I have also been labelled a "termite" by Steve Borley because (at a time when crowds were barely 3,000) he decided to make it more expensive for people who bought tickets on a match day - something that resulted in my friend boycotting the club for a long time because (with illness and no work) he was in no position to buy tickets in advance. I have received PMs from certain fans threatening all sorts (Mike always ignored these) In all of the above, I was more or less a lone voice with plenty of dissenters. Just because my current opinions are less palatable to the majority than some of my previous views, it doesn't give you the right to question my "motives" (something you have intimated in previous threads) as if these motives are any different to any other times that I have found the club's behaviour unreasonable.
I suspect that, in 2008, you wouldn't have asked that precise question would you? In the same way, I wouldn't have been able to ask you how you would react if an owner labelled you a customer and that he would happily lose one in four of you. Neither of us have an ability to look into the future.
History is usually written by the victors, of which Tan currently stands in that camp. However, I can very well remember the exact points that Tan's antics became something to protest about to the majority of fans - and if my memory starts to fail, I'll just look at the results and say "That's when Tan was seen as being a !**&!, and that's where Tan was loved and lauded by the fans".
Being in a minority is never wrong - failing to give an opinion is. Making comments (like I do) about the club (comments that I always stand by) is not trolling. I'm fully aware that this board is less about football these days, and is turning into an Echo Chamber. I am also aware that some people write things here thinking that Tan may be reading, and hoping he warms up enough to open his cheque book.
Apologies for not answering any of the three previous times, I am conscious that I am spending too much time on this board (according to some), and am a little nervous that a truthful response will see another ban for "taking the piss" from Mike the Precious and his colourful ads.
The very fact that my opinion doesn't change with the promise of Premier League football, or a cup run, or a promotion, or a £6m striker, and the fact that you think that my opinion should change is pretty much a succinct and compact way of illustrating that you don't really get it. "
Good luck answering his reply, rather you than me. He obviously sees himself as a heroic figure and seems to be completely unaware that he's just a troll on the message board of a football team he doesn't support. Pretty disturbing.
I find it quite sad. I agree with you and others who say that he seems to see himself as some sort of hero, but, to be honest, I read his posts these days and those of the Bristol City and Leeds supporting trolls we have on here and don't see much difference in them. As I say, it's sad because he's better than that and he would be a good addition to this board in different circumstances, but I read his reply to my question (which I still don't think he's really answered) thinking that even if Vincent Tan was to send him a hand written apology, it wouldn't change how he feels.
Interesting last sentence that.
TOBW, I haven't made a point of reading this Kris fella's posts much, they're often a bit long winded in many cases. However, in this thread, there appears to be two posters whose style of wording and argument are remarkably similar, don't you think?
Are you talking about Kris and the Lone Gunman? If you are, then I'm 99.999999999% sure that they aren't the same person.
See CCFC Phils post.😂😂
You have derailed this thread completely.
I have not read this thread since I replied to you in PM last night - I honestly thought that would be the end of the "matter", but you seem intent on publicising something that I felt was better placed off this forum because I'm pretty sure that isn't what this thread is about.
BTW - a cracking game at Rodney Parade this evening - Newport playing decent football and Notts County are much better than their current league position suggests. Swansea v Bristol on Saturday for me, hoping both sides will lose that one.
It's funny, but when someone compared me to an infamous DJ on another thread I didn't see you calling that disturbing.
It's also not disturbing that when I said I was taking Bob's question "off line" he decided to keep it in this thread I suppose.
Dave Jones? I wouldn't worry about it. I wouldn't worry about being 'labelled a gay' either, come to that.
I don't know why you're having a go at TOBW, you posted your reply on here yourself. One of you did anyway.
He has a very strange personality,me my self and Irene.
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