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Thread: Tonight's Captain

  1. #31

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    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    You miss the point entirely. Williams never CHOSE to play for Wales, he never had a CHOICE.

    He selfishly played for Wales, because he thought he'd never get a game for his own country, and in doing so denied Welsh players caps for their country.

    If he had a choice, he'd obviously play for his own country.
    I thought your OP did make one or two points,ie,his timing and athleticism is on the wane and he was more exposed than when Colman was manager but you are talking out of your brown hole on the above.

  2. #32

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    According to Wikipedia...

    "In December 2010, Williams established the charity WillsWorld with his wife Vanessa, with a view to helping under-privileged children. He is also a patron of Street Football Wales which fights social exclusion, and the Ethan Perkins Trust (based in Swansea), which raises funds for research, support and awareness into childhood brain tumours."

    What a bastard!

  3. #33

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    You miss the point entirely. Williams never CHOSE to play for Wales, he never had a CHOICE.

    He selfishly played for Wales, because he thought he'd never get a game for his own country, and in doing so denied Welsh players caps for their country.

    If he had a choice, he'd obviously play for his own country.
    Of course he had a choice. How do you know that he never thought he would get a game for England? You donít know this at all. As it happens he would have been good enough to have played for England five or six years ago anyway.
    Just for once give him some credit. When he started playing for Wales we were a poor poor side. So he hardly did it for the glory. He has always given 100% to the cause and has suffered nasty injuries as a result. He never ever misses friendlies. He has always been committed. Always.

    To put it simply for you he is the best and most successful captain we have had in our history.

  4. #34

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Of course he had a choice. How do you know that he never thought he would get a game for England? You don’t know this at all. As it happens he would have been good enough to have played for England five or six years ago anyway.
    Just for once give him some credit. When he started playing for Wales we were a poor poor side. So he hardly did it for the glory. He has always given 100% to the cause and has suffered nasty injuries as a result. He never ever misses friendlies. He has always been committed. Always.

    To put it simply for you he is the best and most successful captain we have had in our history.
    we need a clapping hand smiley

  5. #35

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieccfc View Post
    we need a clapping hand smiley

  6. #36

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Of course he had a choice. How do you know that he never thought he would get a game for England? You donít know this at all. As it happens he would have been good enough to have played for England five or six years ago anyway.
    Just for once give him some credit. When he started playing for Wales we were a poor poor side. So he hardly did it for the glory. He has always given 100% to the cause and has suffered nasty injuries as a result. He never ever misses friendlies. He has always been committed. Always.

    To put it simply for you he is the best and most successful captain we have had in our history.
    This

  7. #37

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    According to Wikipedia...

    "In December 2010, Williams established the charity WillsWorld with his wife Vanessa, with a view to helping under-privileged children. He is also a patron of Street Football Wales which fights social exclusion, and the Ethan Perkins Trust (based in Swansea), which raises funds for research, support and awareness into childhood brain tumours."

    What a bastard!
    He's a top lad , added more to life and Wales than many who are alledgly Welsh fans .

    Even the new midfeid lad Ampadu was born in Exeter England, let's hope his form doesn't desert him.

  8. #38

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    To the OP, how would you feel about Ampadu taking the armband in a few years?

  9. #39

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    Ash has been fantastic for us hes played at a high standard for Wales and Swansea and by the way im a city season ticket holder give the man a break he left Swansea and look what happened

  10. #40

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    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    Wouldn't it be nice to see a Welshman wearing the armband again.

    Now that Williams actual defending 'skills' have been brutally exposed for all to see, surely he's finished with Wales.

    Since the tippy tappy game has finished, he's been an embarrassment, first at Everton, and now at Stoke.

    Not quite as embarrassing as his fake dreadlocks mind, apparently he spent a few grand to get his new "look"

    Whereís the useless ginger ....the one that always made blunders costing goals or getting himself sent off?

  11. #41

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    You miss the point entirely. Williams never CHOSE to play for Wales, he never had a CHOICE.

    He selfishly played for Wales, because he thought he'd never get a game for his own country, and in doing so denied Welsh players caps for their country.

    If he had a choice, he'd obviously play for his own country.
    Who did he deny the opportunity to win caps for Wales and what impact on the team would they have had?

  12. #42

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Who did he deny the opportunity to win caps for Wales and what impact on the team would they have had?
    Mike England was looking for a comeback and because of English born Ash, England's place went to English Ash,bloody tradegy if you ask me .

  13. #43

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    Haha grangetownblue made to look silly yet again.

  14. #44

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    Bale officially named as captain

  15. #45

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Who did he deny the opportunity to win caps for Wales and what impact on the team would they have had?
    Welsh football players? And how would anyone what impact they would have on the team?

  16. #46

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    Quote Originally Posted by SgorioFruit View Post
    Haha grangetownblue made to look silly yet again.
    I missed that, what happened? Who made me look silly?

    I'll Ave em!!

  17. #47

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    Quote Originally Posted by Des Parrot View Post
    Bale officially named as captain

  18. #48

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    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    I missed that, what happened? Who made me look silly?

    I'll Ave em!!
    Well it does seem incredibly churlish to bang on about your pet subject immediately after the team just recorded a fabulous victory.

  19. #49

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    You miss the point entirely. Williams never CHOSE to play for Wales, he never had a CHOICE.

    He selfishly played for Wales, because he thought he'd never get a game for his own country, and in doing so denied Welsh players caps for their country.

    If he had a choice, he'd obviously play for his own country.
    You know why we lost to Denmark tonight? I'll tell you why! Coz super Captain Ash wasn't on the pitch! What do you have to say to that?

  20. #50

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    I'm still in Copenhagen, sorry for the delay!

    Unfortunately I don't have time to respond to you all individually, apologies for that.

    I am glad to report though, that the views of some on this MB, aren't the views of the majority of Welsh fans out here.

    They want Welshmen playing for Wales, not English rejects!

    Have some pride in your country.


  21. #51

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    I'm still in Copenhagen, sorry for the delay!

    Unfortunately I don't have time to respond to you all individually, apologies for that.

    I am glad to report though, that the views of some on this MB, aren't the views of the majority of Welsh fans out here.

    They want Welshmen playing for Wales, not English rejects!

    Have some pride in your country.

    Are these the same welsh fans that were singing Hal Robson-Kanu's name on Thursday and Sunday? Are these the same fans that lost their absolute marbles like I did when Vokes scored vs Belgium in Lille. Or are you just telling pork pies. How boring are you that you go round asking this question every Wales game? I suppose you don't rate Brooks or Ampadu?

    Anyone that puts that shirt on and wears it with pride deserves nothing but respect and support. Ash is the best captain we've ever had and possibly ever will have. He's always turned up, he always gives his all and he cares, which is more than can be said for some of our welsh born players in the Toshack era.

  22. #52

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    According to Wikipedia...

    "In December 2010, Williams established the charity WillsWorld with his wife Vanessa, with a view to helping under-privileged children. He is also a patron of Street Football Wales which fights social exclusion, and the Ethan Perkins Trust (based in Swansea), which raises funds for research, support and awareness into childhood brain tumours."

    What a bastard!
    His wife ran the charity for him.

    Guess how he repaid her for all her hard work.

  23. #53

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenith View Post
    To the OP, how would you feel about Ampadu taking the armband in a few years?
    Ampadu's mother is Welsh, and he's played for Wales since he was a schoolboy.

    He'll make a wonderful captain in a few years.

  24. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    Are these the same welsh fans that were singing Hal Robson-Kanu's name on Thursday and Sunday? Are these the same fans that lost their absolute marbles like I did when Vokes scored vs Belgium in Lille. Or are you just telling pork pies. How boring are you that you go round asking this question every Wales game? I suppose you don't rate Brooks or Ampadu?

    Anyone that puts that shirt on and wears it with pride deserves nothing but respect and support. Ash is the best captain we've ever had and possibly ever will have. He's always turned up, he always gives his all and he cares, which is more than can be said for some of our welsh born players in the Toshack era.
    "He always turned up"...... I love that one

  25. #55

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    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    "He always turned up"...... I love that one
    During the Toshack years half our squad pulled out with "injuries". When did Ash do that?

  26. #56

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    What Grangetown chooses to ignore is that Wales approached Ashley Williams to play for the country. In addition he has a Welsh grandfather on his mother’s side. He says his mother gets very emotional when she hears the national anthem. I think that’s great.
    I for one am grateful for what he has done with Wales. He is past his best now but he has been a massively reassuring presence in defence for a good number of years.

  27. #57

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro de la Rosa View Post
    During the Toshack years half our squad pulled out with "injuries". When did Ash do that?
    In them days managers called the shots, these days it's players and their agents.
    It's really that simple.

  28. #58

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    People trying to compare Williams with other 'dual' national players, are really getting confused.

    Some of these players have come through the Welsh schoolboy and junior section, and nearly all have one Welsh parent.

    If you want a fair comparison, then compare Williams with Ryan Shawcross and Ben Turner. Both have the same eligibility as him, i.e one grandparent, but both politely declined as they were more English, and didn't want to deprive Welsh players of caps.

    The fact that Williams accepted tells you all you need to know about the guy, and his ego.

  29. #59

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    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    In them days managers called the shots, these days it's players and their agents.
    It's really that simple.
    Eh? If manager’s called the shots why were half the squad pulling out with injuries? Who has been more committed to Wales? Welsh born Ryan Giggs or English born Ashley Williams? Did you celebrate when HRK scored our second v Belgium in the Euro quarter final btw?

  30. #60

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Soul '68 View Post
    You know why we lost to Denmark tonight? I'll tell you why! Coz super Captain Ash wasn't on the pitch! What do you have to say to that?
    I know a few thousand Everton and Stoke fans would have a right chuckle at that!

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