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Thread: Tonight's Captain

  1. #61

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Well it does seem incredibly churlish to bang on about your pet subject immediately after the team just recorded a fabulous victory.
    Win, lose, or draw, it's a subject close to my heart.

    At least I'm consistent.

  2. #62

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    People trying to compare Williams with other 'dual' national players, are really getting confused.

    Some of these players have come through the Welsh schoolboy and junior section, and nearly all have one Welsh parent.

    If you want a fair comparison, then compare Williams with Ryan Shawcross and Ben Turner. Both have the same eligibility as him, i.e one grandparent, but both politely declined as they were more English, and didn't want to deprive Welsh players of caps.

    The fact that Williams accepted tells you all you need to know about the guy, and his ego.
    So why aren’t you blaming Bryan Flynn for making the approach in the first place? Williams started making his way in the professional game late so missed out on age grade football. Presumably you were against HRK playing for Wales? Vokes? Etc etc.

  3. #63

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    Win, lose, or draw, it's a subject close to my heart.

    At least I'm consistent.
    No you are inconsistent. I don’t see you targeting other players who have chosen to play for Wales on the grounds of having a Welsh grandparent.

  4. #64

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by sneggyblubird View Post
    I thought your OP did make one or two points,ie,his timing and athleticism is on the wane and he was more exposed than when Colman was manager but you are talking out of your brown hole on the above.
    Really, how do you know? Are you actually saying he would rather play for Wales than his own country?

    He's more 'exposed' because the tippy tappy game is finished, and defenders now have to defend a bit.
    He's never been athletic (never had any pace), or had 'timing', and is worse than useless in the air.

    Quite comfortable staying on the edge of the 18 yard box, passing to his full backs and goal keeper, and 'blocking' the odd shot with his ample torso.

  5. #65

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    So why aren’t you blaming Bryan Flynn for making the approach in the first place? Williams started making his way in the professional game late so missed out on age grade football. Presumably you were against HRK playing for Wales? Vokes? Etc etc.
    I don't like us asking any English players to play for us, just because England don't want them.

    I'd rather us play with 11 Welsh players that's all. Why should we be second best?

  6. #66

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    No you are inconsistent. I don’t see you targeting other players who have chosen to play for Wales on the grounds of having a Welsh grandparent.
    I do single him out I admit.
    Maybe it's because his mate made him captain, he's grossly overrated as a player, and let's just say he's not the nicest human being off the pitch either.

  7. #67

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    I do single him out I admit.
    Maybe it's because his mate made him captain, he's grossly overrated as a player, and let's just say he's not the nicest human being off the pitch either.
    He has to have had an affair with your wife for you to be this obsessed.

  8. #68

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by Penarth Blues View Post
    He has to have had an affair with your wife for you to be this obsessed.
    Nah, not my my wife, she's far too classy for him.

  9. #69

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    I know a few thousand Everton and Stoke fans would have a right chuckle at that!
    You know a few thousand Everton and Stoke fans? Good lord.

  10. #70

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    I don't like us asking any English players to play for us, just because England don't want them.

    I'd rather us play with 11 Welsh players that's all. Why should we be second best?
    Yeah but you’re happy to have a player whose parent may be Welsh but who may have never set foot in Wales in their entire life. At least Williams lived in Wales for nine years. If you want to go down your route we will never qualify for anything and yet more great Welsh players will miss out on finals just like Rush, Hughes, Ratcliffe, Giggs, Southall etc.

  11. #71

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    Nah, not my my wife, she's far too classy for him.
    Did he knock your pint over then? This has to be a hatred inspired by a bad personal interaction between the two of you of some sort.

  12. #72

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Yeah but you’re happy to have a player whose parent may be Welsh but who may have never set foot in Wales in their entire life. At least Williams lived in Wales for nine years. If you want to go down your route we will never qualify for anything and yet more great Welsh players will miss out on finals just like Rush, Hughes, Ratcliffe, Giggs, Southall etc.
    Let's go down your route and become England's 2nd XI.

    If we don't have players good enough, then we don't qualify. I have no problem with that.

    Mind you, it's a lot easier to qualify these days with so many team at major finals, I'm sure we'd be fine.

  13. #73

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by Penarth Blues View Post
    Did he knock your pint over then? This has to be a hatred inspired by a bad personal interaction between the two of you of some sort.
    I don't like an Englishman captain my country's football team, that's all. I make no apologies for that.

  14. #74

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    Quote Originally Posted by G rangetown Blue View Post
    I don't like an Englishman captain my country's football team, that's all. I make no apologies for that.
    Thanks for continuing to reply but it still makes no sense to me for you to just single out one of the many English players who've played for Wales - as many other posts have pointed out already. There are so many shades to why someone would choose to play for Wales rather than England that it's almost impossible to judge one player as more patriotic than another.

    Anyway, will leave it there as you've now explained why you dislike him so much. Cheers

  15. #75

    Re: Tonight's Captain

    [QUOTE=Penarth Blues;4915095]Thanks for continuing to reply but it still makes no sense to me for you to just single out one of the many English players who've played for Wales - as many other posts have pointed out already. There are so many shades to why someone would choose to play for Wales rather than England that it's almost impossible to judge one player as more patriotic than another.


    Anyway, will leave it there as you've now explained why you dislike him so much. Cheers[/QUOTE

    Just for clarity.
    He didn't choose Wales, Wales chose him.

    I single him out beacause he's English, he's useless, he's an egomaniac, and he's not a nice person.

    Let's leave it there

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