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    Re: Events conspire against Wales, but better team wins on the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    still think we had better options in that position than him though.
    Definitely, but I understand what Giggs was trying to do in nullifying the Danish right flank. It worked pretty well until we had to chase the game

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    Re: Events conspire against Wales, but better team wins on the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Definitely, but I understand what Giggs was trying to do in nullifying the Danish right flank. It worked pretty well until we had to chase the game
    We missed Brooks who likes to comes deep to pick up the ball, and he can also take on player. He's going to be a real talent in a year or too. Position wise, on the right I would say Wilson is the most similar player. Woodburn likes it out on the left or a more central position. With Roberts stuck in midfield he couldn't do his overlaps as effectively as the previous game. Giggs learns from this, as we were a bit lacking going forward down the right, which is where we decimated Ireland.

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    Re: Events conspire against Wales, but better team wins on the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    We missed Brooks who likes to comes deep to pick up the ball, and he can also take on player. He's going to be a real talent in a year or too. Position wise, on the right I would say Wilson is the most similar player. Woodburn likes it out on the left or a more central position. With Roberts stuck in midfield he couldn't do his overlaps as effectively as the previous game. Giggs learns from this, as we were a bit lacking going forward down the right, which is where we decimated Ireland.
    That was the point of playing Gunter & Roberts. Denamrk's right flank are pacy and like to get forward and have a real talent in Sisto (who, fortunately for us, was shite). If we played with an inside forward in Brooks and an attacking full back in Roberts odds are we'd have been overrun on that flank again and again

    I don't necessarily agree with Giggs' decision, but I can understand why he did it. Its good that he tried something different rather than just throw in the same 11, it shows he's ready to change things around from game to game rather than just go with the tried and tested

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    Re: Events conspire against Wales, but better team wins on the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    That was the point of playing Gunter & Roberts. Denamrk's right flank are pacy and like to get forward and have a real talent in Sisto (who, fortunately for us, was shite). If we played with an inside forward in Brooks and an attacking full back in Roberts odds are we'd have been overrun on that flank again and again

    I don't necessarily agree with Giggs' decision, but I can understand why he did it. Its good that he tried something different rather than just throw in the same 11, it shows he's ready to change things around from game to game rather than just go with the tried and tested
    In that case we could have gone with a 3 man defence.

    Hennessy

    Chester - Ampadu - Mepham

    Roberts - Allen - Smith - Davies

    Brooks - Bale - Lawrence

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    Re: Events conspire against Wales, but better team wins on the day.

    Which could morph into this depending on the state of play.

    Hennessey

    Roberts - Chester - Mepham - Davies

    Ampadu

    Brooks - Allen - Smith - Lawrence

    Bale

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    Re: Events conspire against Wales, but better team wins on the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    In that case we could have gone with a 3 man defence.

    Hennessy

    Chester - Ampadu - Mepham

    Roberts - Allen - Smith - Davies

    Brooks - Bale - Lawrence
    Dropping Ramsey? Giggs wouldn't have done that in a million years and this still leaves the attacking combo of Roberts & Brooks on the right. The Gunter/Roberts thing worked until we conceded, Gunter should have come off rather than Roberts imo although he could have been tired following Thursday

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    Re: Events conspire against Wales, but better team wins on the day.

    Quote Originally Posted by City123 View Post
    Dropping Ramsey? Giggs wouldn't have done that in a million years and this still leaves the attacking combo of Roberts & Brooks on the right. The Gunter/Roberts thing worked until we conceded, Gunter should have come off rather than Roberts imo although he could have been tired following Thursday
    You praised Giggs for trying something different. This is my alternative suggestion for trying something different. Roberts has defensive duties in my lineup, his job is to nullify the threat down the right that you have identified, with Chester behind him instead of Gunter. I have even included an extra defensive midfielder in Smith. So that is six defensive minded players in the team. Davies and Roberts can get forward if we are in a good attacking position, but that is not their main function for this match. There are three flair players in the side to attack on the break, who can be supported by Roberts, Allen and Davies when we transition.

    So we can't drop Ramsey? Are we back to the old days where certain players are picked come what may? I've just chosen a side specifically to face Denmark away, the 9th best team in the world, with an emphasis on nullifying their creative players. Now you tell me I have to include Ramsey in my tream Sorry, I want to include Brooks and Lawrence who can track back into midfield, collect the ball from deeper positions, can play as wide men or centrally, and can interchange positions. They would be more flexible in this situation. Ramsey is good, but this is a one-off selection, and I have replaced him with Smith on this particular occasion due to the threat of Eriksen.

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