Genuine question for leavers

[severncity]

I voted leave because the EU is undemocratic, unaccountable, dominated by bullying Germany and in my opinion the stepping stone to a fascistic one-world corporatocracy.

So no.

[Eric Cartman]

I voted leave because the EU is undemocratic, unaccountable, dominated by bullying Germany and in my opinion the stepping stone to a fascistic one-world corporatocracy.

So no.

Does that mean you didn't mind what came after leaving because in your view it couldn't be worse than where we were headed within the EU?

[Rjk]

I voted leave because the EU is undemocratic, unaccountable, dominated by bullying Germany and in my opinion the stepping stone to a fascistic one-world corporatocracy.

So no.

I never really understood this corporatocracy argument - the EU has done more to tackle the excesses of multinationals than anyone, and certainly more than the UK could ever achieve by itself.

[severncity]

I never really understood this corporatocracy argument - the EU has done more to tackle the excesses of multinationals than anyone, and certainly more than the UK could ever achieve by itself.

Try reading about it and you may understand it if you are clever enough.

[Rjk]

Try reading about it and you may understand it if you are clever enough.

I have read about it, and the narrative that is being put forward doesn't appear to be backed up by what is actually happening.

[severncity]

I have read about it, and the narrative that is being put forward doesn't appear to be backed up by what is actually happening.

Read these then

http://www.europeanfinancialreview.com/?p=6074

https://www.mondialisation.ca/the-ri...ocracy/5532097

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ceta-eu-canada

[Rjk]

Read these then

http://www.europeanfinancialreview.com/?p=6074

https://www.mondialisation.ca/the-ri...ocracy/5532097

https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ceta-eu-canada

Yes I have read articles like this, and I certainly agree that the rising scale and power of these mega corporations needs to be countered.
The EU is one of the only bodies that is willing to stand up to them though (China aside but let's not go down that road) in terms of workers rights, taxation, data protection, market manipulation and a raft of other areas name any country who has done more to tackle the excesses of multinationals?

[severncity]

Yes I have read articles like this, and I certainly agree that the rising scale and power of these mega corporations needs to be countered.
The EU is one of the only bodies that is willing to stand up to them though (China aside but let's not go down that road) in terms of workers rights, taxation, data protection, market manipulation and a raft of other areas name any country who has done more to tackle the excesses of multinationals?

Well last time I looked youth unemployment was around 25% in most southern EU countries, the minimum wage in most countries is barely enough to live on, the EU allows offshoring of profits and revenues to avoid corporation tax and the ex head of the EU lobbies for Goldman Sachs while he is in the job.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/21/gold...-lobbying.html

The so-called workers benefits, other than the EU time directive, sick pay and holiday pay, add up to very little. Remember when people had a job for life? With pension, holiday and sick pay? It is because the EU has enabled huge corporations to shift work to countries with lower wages and promote the gig economy that rights have been eroded.

And I can name a country that has done more than the EU to protect workers from corporations. Iceland.

[Gofer Blue]

I voted leave because the EU is undemocratic, unaccountable, dominated by bullying Germany and in my opinion the stepping stone to a fascistic one-world corporatocracy.

So no.

I voted leave for the first three reasons above (not so sure about the fascistic one-world corporatocracy!). I feel somewhat vindicated by this announcement yesterday which confirms my thinking:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...u-court-ruling

[life on mars]

I voted leave for the first three reasons above (not so sure about the fascistic one-world corporatocracy!). I feel somewhat vindicated by this announcement yesterday which confirms my thinking:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...u-court-ruling

You can add this greedy one as well https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...u-divorce-bill

dont see the usual pension moaners crisscrossing this pension, like they do of the business elite

[Veg1960]

You can add this greedy one as well https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...u-divorce-bill

dont see the usual pension moaners crisscrossing this pension, like they do of the business elite

Who do you think should pick up the cost of Farage's pension?