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Thread: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

  1. #61

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Yes but one of them is lying. And why is he struggling so much to prove his integrity? Some of his responses are excrutiating.
    Because it was a character assassination and not a trial. Nobody would survive that process the way it was orchestrated and setup.

  2. #62

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Because it was a character assassination and not a trial. Nobody would survive that process the way it was orchestrated and setup.
    I have watched every second so far and he is, without doubt, dishonest, evasive and narcissistic.

  3. #63

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I have watched every second so far and he is, without doubt, dishonest, evasive and narcissistic.
    They were pressing to get the FBI involved at every given opportunity, hence there was a microscopic analysis of his every word and action which led to him being overcautious to the point of being excruciating. The Democrats playbook involved geting his confirmation delayed until after the midterms, in the hope that they could win the house and stop the republican nomination. In football parlance, Kavanaugh parked the bus and refused to play their game. It's possible that something may have happened to that woman, but I'm just not convinced that it was Kavanaugh who did it. BTW I don't think this matter is finished yet, still more to come..

  4. #64

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    They were pressing to get the FBI involved at every given opportunity, hence there was a microscopic analysis of his every word and action which led to him being overcautious to the point of being excruciating. The Democrats playbook involved geting his confirmation delayed until after the midterms, in the hope that they could win the house and stop the republican nomination. In football parlance, Kavanaugh parked the bus and refused to play their game. It's possible that something may have happened to that woman, but I'm just not convinced that it was Kavanaugh who did it. BTW I don't think this matter is finished yet, still more to come..
    Having watched them both I'm inclined to agree with you . The one thing I'm fairly sure its politically motivated,based on the other charecter smears , that's not to say something has happened to this lady a long time ago .

    What is puzzling ,
    Kavanagh would have been pubically known in the USA ,and made headlines before now and before this nomination ,so why have folk not stepped up before now .

  5. #65

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Having watched them both I'm inclined to agree with you . The one thing I'm fairly sure its politically motivated,based on the other charecter smears , that's not to say something has happened to this lady a long time ago .

    What is puzzling ,
    Kavanagh would have been pubically known in the USA ,and made headlines before now and before this nomination ,so why have folk not stepped up before now .
    Maybe you weren't watching that closely as she addressed that in her testimony.

  6. #66

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    They were pressing to get the FBI involved at every given opportunity, hence there was a microscopic analysis of his every word and action which led to him being overcautious to the point of being excruciating. The Democrats playbook involved geting his confirmation delayed until after the midterms, in the hope that they could win the house and stop the republican nomination. In football parlance, Kavanaugh parked the bus and refused to play their game. It's possible that something may have happened to that woman, but I'm just not convinced that it was Kavanaugh who did it. BTW I don't think this matter is finished yet, still more to come..
    He is still dishonest about his past. And his performance was positively juvenile on many occasions. Hardly what you would expect of someone in his position.

  7. #67

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    He is still dishonest about his past. And his performance was positively juvenile on many occasions. Hardly what you would expect of someone in his position.
    I liked the "We should pray for the woman" bit

    Reminded me of Little House oh the Prarie

  8. #68

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Too many gaps in the accusers story and not enough evidence against the accused. The Democrats were also playing fast and loose with the way they managed the whole episode. I agree with Sen. Graham, they were both victims. Sen. Feinstein set her up with a Clinton Lawyer and a McCabe lawyer. Sadly it all seems to be about the Democrats, and not the two people we saw giving testomony today. This case wouldn't stand a chance of succeeding in a court of law.
    So says the man who says he likes to examine the evidence logically before arriving at a decision and yet, once he has done so, still always comes to an anti Democratic Party decision. As I've said before, I willingly admit my bias, but mine is as nothing compared to yours and yet you still carry on as if it doesn't exist .

  9. #69

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    It's not a court of law though - and he isn't convincing at all. If he is innocent he is making the biggest mess of the situation possible. The Devil's Triangle explanation was perhaps artful too.
    You're right TBG. A court would have other witnesses. But they were deliberately excluded here to make it a he said she said, which helps the defendant no end. As expected, it was a sham box ticking exercise; not so expected was his dreadful performance. The American Bar have said today that he shouldn't be voted in without a proper investigation.

    Speaking of Devil's Triangle, Wikipedia has been updated from a congressional IP address to include it as a drinking game (it isn't) rather than a sexual game (it is).

  10. #70

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    So says the man who says he likes to examine the evidence logically before arriving at a decision and yet, once he has done so, still always comes to an anti Democratic Party decision. As I've said before, I willingly admit my bias, but mine is as nothing compared to yours and yet you still carry on as if it doesn't exist .
    Fair play to the democrats, they set this up by getting her to tell her therapist his name and the story in 2012. How about that for planning ahead?

    And also fair play to them for getting a woman to have her life ruined just so they can...What exactly? The GOP can easily get another judge voted on, and one they all approve of rather than Bart. I'm not sure exactly what they are supposed to have won here.

  11. #71

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Truth through evidence and collaboration will see this through, the gut feeling though ,there is not much out there , but chatter.
    life on mars, you said you were puzzled why she hadn't come forward before.

    In this post, despite there having been no investigation, despite you having seen no evidence, despite you having heard nothing from either party beyond "this happened" "no it didn't", despite you even not having seen her face for that matter, you made a conclusion that it probably didn't happen based on a gut feeling.

    May I suggest that this is why sexual assault victims rarely come forward.

  12. #72

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    You're right TBG. A court would have other witnesses. But they were deliberately excluded here to make it a he said she said, which helps the defendant no end. As expected, it was a sham box ticking exercise; not so expected was his dreadful performance. The American Bar have said today that he shouldn't be voted in without a proper investigation.

    Speaking of Devil's Triangle, Wikipedia has been updated from a congressional IP address to include it as a drinking game (it isn't) rather than a sexual game (it is).
    Interestingly, Lindsay Graham called the ABA the gold standard in his emotional speech defending Bart at the hearing.

  13. #73

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Someone lied on oath yesterday. It was either the person (that woman as Christine Blasey Ford was so delicately called in an earlier post) who appeared to have very little to personally gain by being in that room yesterday or it was that man who had every thing to lose.

  14. #74

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Someone lied on oath yesterday. It was either the person (that woman as Christine Blasey Ford was so delicately called in an earlier post) who appeared to have very little to personally gain by being in that room yesterday or it was that man who had every thing to lose.
    Does one of them have a history of lying under oath? That might help the ccmb sofa detectives come to a conclusion.

  15. #75

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Someone lied on oath yesterday. It was either the person (that woman as Christine Blasey Ford was so delicately called in an earlier post) who appeared to have very little to personally gain by being in that room yesterday or it was that man who had every thing to lose.
    And only one of them has taken a polygraph test.

  16. #76

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    And only one of them has taken a polygraph test.
    To be fair, I wouldn't trust those.

  17. #77

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    To be fair, I wouldn't trust those.
    They are fallible but guess which bodies in the States used them predominantly: Law enforcement agencies and the intelligence agencies.

  18. #78

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Heard somewhere that her brother works for fusion GPS?

  19. #79

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Rogersblue View Post
    Heard somewhere that her brother works for fusion GPS?
    Could that be because you are influenced by all sorts of drivel and are seemingly untroubled by facts?

    https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...rett-kavanaug/

  20. #80

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    So says the man who says he likes to examine the evidence logically before arriving at a decision and yet, once he has done so, still always comes to an anti Democratic Party decision. As I've said before, I willingly admit my bias, but mine is as nothing compared to yours and yet you still carry on as if it doesn't exist .
    I was wearing my legal hat, there was a distinct lack of evidence. No date, no location, a changing storyline, and all the people alledged to have been there all denied being there. Then there was the fear of flying, the Clinton lawyers, the leak to the press, etc. It just didn't add up. And the Kavanaugh bloke was being character assasinated, they were even trying to turn juvenile schoolboy humour into proof. It was a no-win situation for both of them. If anybody was to blame it was the Democrats. Feinstein never told Kavanaugh about these allegations when she met with him. The Dems were playing dirty, leaking to the press etc.

  21. #81

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    Fair play to the democrats, they set this up by getting her to tell her therapist his name and the story in 2012. How about that for planning ahead.
    She testified under oath that Kavenaugh's name was not mentioned in the therapists notes!

  22. #82

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Having watched them both I'm inclined to agree with you . The one thing I'm fairly sure its politically motivated,based on the other charecter smears , that's not to say something has happened to this lady a long time ago .

    What is puzzling ,
    Kavanagh would have been pubically known in the USA ,and made headlines before now and before this nomination ,so why have folk not stepped up before now .
    Kavanaugh worked on the Whitewater & Vince Foster cases against the Clintons. If any dirt from his past existed, it would have been used against him back then.

  23. #83

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  24. #84

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    How dare those women violate that man's personal space! He did not invite their attention, yet they continued harassing him anyway... Disgusting behaviour!

  25. #85

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Heisenberg View Post
    How dare those women violate that man's personal space! He did not invite their attention, yet they continued harassing him anyway... Disgusting behaviour!
    Are you saying he should ignore the evidence and vote in favour of a political stunt?

  26. #86

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Kavanaugh worked on the Whitewater & Vince Foster cases against the Clintons. If any dirt from his past existed, it would have been used against him back then.
    That isn't correct though, is it? Being aware of things and them existing are two different things.

  27. #87

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    That isn't correct though, is it? Being aware of things and them existing are two different things.
    If Ford cannot remember where she was, how she got there, what day it was, who all was there, or how she got home, how can she be 100% certain Kavanaugh was there & sexually assaulted her?

  28. #88

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    If Ford cannot remember where she was, how she got there, what day it was, who all was there, or how she got home, how can she be 100% certain Kavanaugh was there & sexually assaulted her?
    I remember being pursued by a pervert in Barry as a kid but I don't know when it was nor how I got home. I also remembered his face for a while but I had no knowledge of him previously.

  29. #89

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I remember being pursued by a pervert in Barry as a kid but I don't know when it was nor how I got home. I also remembered his face for a while but I had no knowledge of him previously.
    And don't forget that she not only passed the polygraph but has called for the FBI to establish some of the circumstantial evidence. On the other hand, he has reacted quite differently. He has been lying through his teeth about his semi-angelic youth and he has clearly shown that he is unsuitable for the job whatever.

  30. #90

    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    And don't forget that she not only passed the polygraph but has called for the FBI to establish some of the circumstantial evidence. On the other hand, he has reacted quite differently. He has been lying through his teeth about his semi-angelic youth and he has clearly shown that he is unsuitable for the job whatever.
    Did the polygraph mention Kavenaugh? I think they only submitted partial documentation as part of their evidence.

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