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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Did the polygraph mention Kavenaugh? I think they only submitted partial documentation as part of their evidence.
    The polygraph would be of no relevance whatsoever if it didn't include any mention of him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I remember being pursued by a pervert in Barry as a kid but I don't know when it was nor how I got home. I also remembered his face for a while but I had no knowledge of him previously.
    Funnily enough the same thing happened to me (not in Barry). I can still clearly remember every detail from that day. Later on I got a job and he was working there! It was quite a big place, so I rarely saw him, but I did think about confronting him and punching his lights out. Since it was only a pursuit with no physical action, I decided to leave it at the death stares. I worked there for 6 months and never saw I'm again after that.

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    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    The polygraph would be of no relevance whatsoever if it didn't include any mention of him.
    So you're 100% certain that Kavanaugh's name was mentioned in the Polygraph documentation? Don't forget Ford testified under oath that Kavanaugh's name was not mentioned in the therapists notes, after people were saying it was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Funnily enough the same thing happened to me (not in Barry). I can still clearly remember every detail from that day. Later on I got a job and he was working there! It was quite a big place, so I rarely saw him, but I did think about confronting him and punching his lights out. Since it was only a pursuit with no physical action, I decided to leave it at the death stares. I worked there for 6 months and never saw I'm again after that.
    Have you just answered your question? Even if you don't think you did I have to keep reminding you that she WANTS further investigation to establish the truth. On the other hand, he doesn't. I'll be amazed if he survives this as more statements about him are coming on record every day. Like many events in politics it's not necessarily the original incident that sinks a politician but the lies in covering up those incidents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Have you just answered your question?
    Answered what question? The only thing I have established here is that I have better memory recall.

    The call for the FBI investigation is only to delay the confirmation past the mid-term elections for political advantage, and that is all the Democrats care about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    So you're 100% certain that Kavanaugh's name was mentioned in the Polygraph documentation? Don't forget Ford testified under oath that Kavanaugh's name was not mentioned in the therapists notes, after people were saying it was.
    Kavanaugh's supporters would have jumped on any talk of a polygraph that didn't include any mention of Kavanaugh (and for very obvious reason).

    https://www.scribd.com/document/3895...s-2#from_embed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Answered what question? The only thing I have established here is that I have better memory recall.

    The call for the FBI investigation is only to delay the confirmation past the mid-term elections for political advantage, and that is all the Democrats care about.
    The opportunity for the FBI to get involved would obviously present a better opportunity to establish some of the claims on both sides. Ignoring information that can be gleaned outside the current sessions is hardly justice and rather negligent concerning a very serious subject. Some of the Democrats have been asking for just one week's grace.

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    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Kavanaugh's supporters would have jumped on any talk of a polygraph that didn't include any mention of Kavanaugh (and for very obvious reason).

    https://www.scribd.com/document/3895...s-2#from_embed
    How did the incorrect statement regarding who was at the party slip through the polygraph test?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    The opportunity for the FBI to get involved would obviously present a better opportunity to establish some of the claims on both sides. Ignoring information that can be gleaned outside the current sessions is hardly justice and rather negligent concerning a very serious subject. Some of the Democrats have been asking for just one week's grace.
    The Judiciary Committee already have a large team of investigators assisting with the case, and they have interviewed every witness under oath. What aren't they doing that the FBI could be doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    How did the incorrect statement regarding who was at the party slip through the polygraph test?
    Not sure of the fine detail. There are certainly some inconsistencies with some things on her side. However, she still came over as more credible that the pompous, egotistical and untruthful judge. Her case may never be proven but he has shown what he is made of....and beyond reasonable doubt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The Judiciary Committee already have a large team of investigators assisting with the case, and they have interviewed every witness under oath. What aren't they doing that the FBI could be doing?
    Interviewing third parties from whom they have merely received statements handed on a plate hitherto. The biggest omission being his alleged accomplice.

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    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Not sure of the fine detail. There are certainly some inconsistencies with some things on her side. However, she still came over as more credible that the pompous, egotistical and untruthful judge. Her case may never be proven but he has shown what he is made of....and beyond reasonable doubt.
    You've just hit the nail on the head, there is a complete lack of evidence to move this case forward. You cannot convict anybody based on emotional feelings alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Interviewing third parties from whom they have merely received statements handed on a plate hitherto. The biggest omission being his alleged accomplice.
    Dr Ford's star witness Ms. Leland Keyser confirmed through her attorney that she doesn't even know Kavanaugh, and that she wasn't at the party in question. Where are you going with all of this? Take off the blinkers man!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    You've just hit the nail on the head, there is a complete lack of evidence to move this case forward. You cannot convict anybody based on emotional feelings alone.
    Nah, that's not what I said at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Dr Ford's star witness Ms. Leland Keyser confirmed through her attorney that she doesn't even know Kavanaugh, and that she wasn't at the party in question. Where are you going with all of this? Take off the blinkers man!
    I have mentioned inconsistencies on her side and there are many on his. You seem to be the one with the blinkers on as you not only misconstrue what I wrote but your views have been totally unilateral so far. My main perspective is that he is dishonest about his past, which should preclude him from taking up the position he seeks.

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    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I have mentioned inconsistencies on her side and there are many on his. You seem to be the one with the blinkers on as you not only misconstrue what I wrote but your views have been totally unilateral so far. My main perspective is that he is dishonest about his past, which should preclude him from taking up the position he seeks.
    Unilateral regarding the points of law. Kavanaugh appears to be a bit of an elitist knob, but if the anti-Trumper Jeff Flake votes for him, it will tell you everything that you need to know.

    PS how would you like your career to be destroyed over a bit of banter you enjoyed with friends in high school? The embellished yearbook in question is far from factual, and they used it in their attempts to crucify him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Unilateral regarding the points of law. Kavanaugh appears to be a bit of an elitist knob, but if the anti-Trumper Jeff Flake votes for him, it will tell you everything that you need to know.

    PS how would you like your career to be destroyed over a bit of banter you enjoyed with friends in high school? The embellished yearbook in question is far from factual, and they used it in their attempts to crucify him.
    Let's not personalise this and stick to what is relevant. The guy has repeatedly been dishonest about his youth and rather than take the opportunity to be honest now he has repeatedly lied, obfuscated, re-emphasised his lies in TV interviews and responded to questions with narcissistic rants, idiotic comments and petulant responses. He has painted himself whiter than white and it appears that it's just not true. If I was an American I would be very concerned that someone so dishonest and manipulative could be considered for the post he aspires to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Let's not personalise this and stick to what is relevant. The guy has repeatedly been dishonest about his youth and rather than take the opportunity to be honest now he has repeatedly lied, obfuscated, re-emphasised his lies in TV interviews and responded to questions with narcissistic rants, idiotic comments and petulant responses. He has painted himself whiter than white and it appears that it's just not true. If I was an American I would be very concerned that someone so dishonest and manipulative could be considered for the post he aspires to.
    If this isn't just all a politically orchestrated plot to gain an advantage during the midterm elections, then there is no statute of limitations in Maryland regarding cases it sexual abuse. Ms. Ford has all the top Clinton lawers working for free, so she can easily progress this case through the law courts. This would be the best way to seek justice by putting him behind bars, not just stopping him from getting a new job.

    However, my guess is there will be no value to to democrats after the November elections, and that is without the fact that this case wouldn't stand a chance of succeeding in its current state.

    To sum it all up, why go for half justice when full justice is available? It sure as hell doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    If this isn't just all a politically orchestrated plot to gain an advantage during the midterm elections, then there is no statute of limitations in Maryland regarding cases it sexual abuse. Ms. Ford has all the top Clinton lawers working for free, so she can easily progress this case through the law courts. This would be the best way to seek justice by putting him behind bars, not just stopping him from getting a new job.

    However, my guess is there will be no value to to democrats after the November elections, and that is without the fact that this case wouldn't stand a chance of succeeding in its current state.

    To sum it all up, why go for half justice when full justice is available? It sure as hell doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
    The last couple of days have been about the guy's suitability for a very important post. It's obvious that party politics are hugely involved but his integrity is shot.

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    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    The last couple of days have been about the guy's suitability for a very important post. It's obvious that party politics are hugely involved but his integrity is shot.
    So take him out in a Maryland court of law and finish the job! They will also have the benefit of discovery to gain access to evidence that is a lot more incriminating (works both ways though), plus there will be forensic examinations in court to prevent any theatrics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    And don't forget that she not only passed the polygraph
    BTW do you know who paid for the polygraph test? And who were the beach friends that were mentoring her about everything that she should do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    BTW do you know who paid for the polygraph test? And who were the beach friends that were mentoring her about everything that she should do?
    Pray tell, Columbo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    The Judiciary Committee already have a large team of investigators assisting with the case, and they have interviewed every witness under oath. What aren't they doing that the FBI could be doing?
    That's not true though is it. Here is the famous committee's investigation in the words of those "investigators"

    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/pre...tt-m-kavanaugh.

    If you think that Mark Judge was, interviewed or under oath based on the paragraph of the statement his lawyers entered on his behalf or that this has any equivalence to an FBI investigation then you are more deluded than even your posts suggest.

    You are someone who only forms opinions on the basis of first hand evidence for chrissake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Pray tell, Columbo!
    TBG said that it was obvious that party politics are hugely involved, so I just wondered if he had any idea who was funding all of this, and who were people behind the scenes who were running the show. For example, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee was caught on camera in the video clip above, passing an envelope to the Clinton lawyer who was representing Dr. Ford. BTW I agree with TBG that it's obvious that party politics are hugely involved.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    TBG said that it was obvious that party politics are hugely involved, so I just wondered if he had any idea who was funding all of this, and who were people behind the scenes who were running the show. For example, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee was caught on camera in the video clip above, passing an envelope to the Clinton lawyer who was representing Dr. Ford. BTW I agree with TBG that it's obvious that party politics are hugely involved.
    So who paid for the polygraph and who were the beach friends mentoring Ms Ford about everything she should do? Asking for a friend.

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    Re: Abuse accustations against Supreme Court nominee Judge Kavanaugh

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    That's not true though is it. Here is the famous committee's investigation in the words of those "investigators"

    https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/pre...tt-m-kavanaugh.

    If you think that Mark Judge was, interviewed or under oath based on the paragraph of the statement his lawyers entered on his behalf or that this has any equivalence to an FBI investigation then you are more deluded than even your posts suggest.

    You are someone who only forms opinions on the basis of first hand evidence for chrissake!
    The sworn statements were all made under penalty of perjury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    TBG said that it was obvious that party politics are hugely involved, so I just wondered if he had any idea who was funding all of this, and who were people behind the scenes who were running the show. For example, Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee was caught on camera in the video clip above, passing an envelope to the Clinton lawyer who was representing Dr. Ford. BTW I agree with TBG that it's obvious that party politics are hugely involved.
    Please don't go off at tangents regarding statements I make regarding the credibility of Kavanaugh. I don't wish to align myself with your views in general.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    So who paid for the polygraph and who were the beach friends mentoring Ms Ford about everything she should do? Asking for a friend.
    Yeah, well it sure would be interesting to find that out!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Please don't go off at tangents regarding statements I make regarding the credibility of Kavanaugh. I don't wish to align myself with your views in general.
    I do apologise for being a Corbynite

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