Proof that some Democrats do have brainsOriginally Posted by Elwood Blues
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Proof that some Democrats do have brains
Sen. Susan Collins who is a moderate and not a Trump fan has bravely called this one out and
changed the landscape .
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...-trump-n917261
All of the senators will already know that Dr Ford and her lawyer high school friend were asking other witnesses to change their testimony. This information is included in the FBI report that was delivered to congress. They also have all of the communications data. That's why the investigation was over so quickly, and there was no need to speak to all the other witnesses that the democrats were making a noise about.
I thought Dr Ford made a more sympathetic and convincing witness than Judge Kavanaugh, but haven't got a clue as to whether there was any truth in her allegations or not. My natural anti Trump instincts made me hope they were true, but, like anyone else who wasn't there, I have to rely on guesswork.
Therefore, it's interesting to see that, apart from one Republican and one Democrat who voted the "wrong" way, thereby cancelling each other out, the vote yesterday went along on completely predictable lines with party politics being the deciding factor in 98% of the voters - all seems quite "swampish" to me.
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/10/05/p...ote/index.html
It was the same on here with it being easy to predict who all bar one of the contributors to this thread (TBG) were siding with before reading what they had to say - just seeing their names was enough to know. Before anyone accuses me of arrogantly putting myself above such things, I should say that I'm as guilty of it as anyone, but, unlike the person with has over 10,000 posts against his name and 90 per cent of them, at least, must be about American politics, I like to think I can admit when I'm wrong and do not believe, as is indicated in everything he posts on the subject, that one side is completely in the right and the other completely in the wrong - the world is becoming a f*cked up place and I dread to think where it's going to end unless people, myself included, become better at seeing the other side of an argument.
So did I! She had my sympathy too, but now we are seeing the underlying theme is the same as the Trump Russia Collusion narrative. The lawyer representing Ford's high school friend was involved with the Clinton investigation and the Russia collusion investigation, until he abruptly left the DOJ national security division.
Since most of the posts in the Trump thread are about corruption and collusion of one sort of another, it is to be expected that those talking about it will have one kind of view or another. Furthermore, I only took an interest in this topic because I realised that it goes much further than American politics. The networks involved are global, and the same frameworks are being used in many countries. Therefore any wrongdoing uncovered in the American system will have global ramifications. We have already seen other countries pleading with Trump not to release the Carter Page FISA warrant information which implicates the Obama administration.
Personally, I wish it was all over and we could get back to normal. In fact, I originally thought that it would all be over fairly soon, but I didn't realise the full complexity of the issue, or that the system is set up to defend itself over all other interests. The media don't make things any any easier either, as they are usually complicit in any false narratives. The end result is that many people don't have a clue about what is really going on. The Americans are slowly getting there, and that is how an outsider got into the White House, but we still have a lot to learn about the ways of the world.
There you go proving my point.
In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act.
I can see you are going to keep your blinkers on until the bitter end.
So let's just play the long game ...
BTW if I am proving your point, then you have to disprove mine, so why don't you start throwing some facts back at me and we can compare notes.
As I said in my post from a few days ago, I would like it for the allegations to be the truth, but I honestly don't know if they are, how can any of us who were not there say for certain that they are? One thing I'm certain of though is that if Kavanaugh was facing exactly the same accusations in exactly the same circumstances as a Democrat nominated by a Democratic President, your attitude would be one hundred and eighty degrees different to what it is now - you'd be adamant that the accusations were true.
Hasn't it always been this way? One would have to be dependent on the opposing party thinking in a rational and honest way and no-one really trusts each other that much. Being reasonable has taken a kicking in recent years but it's underpinned by a partisan and almost religious fervour that is never far beneath the surface (and is often on the surface).
Trouble with debate or controversial events like this or Brexit ones argument is likely to be tainted by your political beliefs, anti Trumpys, couldnt wait to jump on the bandwagon.
With Brexit ,no matter how good a deal May gets it will be crap in the eyes of Labour voters ,because of the hatred towards her and her party .
I remember the Salisbury incident, lots of suggestions that the goverment were wrong, loads of point scoring, accusations, now silence from a lot folk .
Politics of envy I guess , it's not a weakness to sometimes see the good in others .
If you think the main reason there are people unhappy with what's happening with brexit is "I don't like the Tories" then you live on another planet.
People aren't blind, they can see what is happening in America. The mask is slipping and the globalists days are numbered. We are still controlled by the media, but that is changing. People all over the world are fed up with the deceit, and the judgement day is coming. Once a critical mass is achieved, the force will be unstoppable.
Brett Kavanaugh nomination: Victory for Trump in Supreme Court vote
The US Senate has voted to confirm President Donald Trump's nominee for the Supreme Court, after weeks of rancorous debate.
The Senate backed Brett Kavanaugh's nomination by 50 votes to 48.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-45774174
Draining the swamp Trump Style #5,770,558
Kavanaugh was nominated by a candidate who lost the popular vote by 3 million+ votes.
— Ally Maynard (@missmayn) October 5, 2018
The 49 Senators who voted 'No' on Kavanaugh represent 181.8 million Americans.
The 51 Senators who voted 'Yes' represent 143.2 million.
Our political system is broken.
Minority rule in America, in one paragraph https://t.co/Ytm8gYGhOa pic.twitter.com/BYrILpOhKp
— Dylan Matthews (@dylanmatt) October 6, 2018
How many illegal aliens voted? How many "dead" people voted? How many people voted twice?
And just to clear this one up for lardy, the USA isn't a democratic republic, it's a Constitutional Republic. Nice try though!
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Problem I have with your theory is that mass swathes of the media in this country are controlled by Rupert Murdoch who also controls a lot of media globally. He and his outlets espouse your views and they’re on a world wide scale.
So if indeed there are globalists they’re not restricted to the liberal media as you seem to define them solely being.
I was talking about all of the news organisations. Social media is emerging as the place where people share ideas.
CHRISTINE BLASEY FORD HAS NO PLANS TO FURTHER PURSUE ALLEGATIONS AGAINST BRETT KAVANAUGH: ATTORNEY
https://abc7news.com/amp/politics/fo...rther/4427136/
It's no coincidence that Bart O'Kavanaugh used Fox and WSJ to make his case.
Well spotted. The New York Times and Washington Post were too busy fabricating stories against Kavanaugh.
It’s been proved that this didn’t happen but please feel free to cut and paste a link from a right wing website.
Where was it proved?
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