First time in about 10 years that we play without Bale and Ramsey.

It's now a tough game and realistically a draw is now an acceptable result. Wilson, Lawrence, Brooks can still cause a lot of problems for Ireland so still big hope for us. Long journey for us to next tournament now though. And, forgive me for saying, but still a bit of a hit that a Welshman has got the England camp's heads screwed on for the first time ever.