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  1. #26

    Re: Warnock

    Quote Originally Posted by surge View Post
    I think he differs to Slade in that Slade was stepping up and we wanted to see him show that he was ready, part of that being through the media.

    Warnock has been there and done that, and we know his methods work. His messages are repetitive but it's about bringing the team to the first whistle believing they can perform and creating a united front from the fans.
    His methods may work to a certain degree in the championship but they certainly don’t work in the premiership.

    I don’t see how him blowing off the opposition before every game brings the team together believing they can perform. Hes giving the team and himself an excuse before a ball is kicked!!!

    You can sort of excuse against Chelsea and City to a certain degree if hes asked the question (I still think he over did it) but when he’s saying he wishes he had a fellow promoted sides players, who are also struggling I may add, instead of his own how the **** is that going to give them confidence??

    He was quick to tell us at start of season about his lack of budget, even though he told “Vincent” he “didn’t need a lot of money” but he wasn’t going to whinge about it, yet he’s spent every week whinging about it!!!!

    I just wish he’d **** up with the woe is me act and get on with it. If we go down, we go down but let’s go down fighting not telling us we are out of our depth every week. It’s getting tiresome.

  2. #27

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    We need to get nastier, and that starts with Warnock. If the media are going to portray us as horrible bastards let's at least play the part

  3. #28

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    He should his name to Phil Connors. This woe is me patter is getting very much like Groundhog Day.

    His Friday interviews will mainly consist of blowing smoke up the oppositions arse, letting everyone know we havent got a cat in hells chance of staying up, and of course telling the fans how brilliant they are.
    Chelsea bench said our fans were the noisiest aaaall season. Yay!!

  4. #29

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    You must have read the transcript of a different interview to me. It was generally positive and motivational. Some people are also having trouble differentiating between when he says something 'tongue in cheek' and when he is being serious. There is no doubt in my mind that he knows what he is doing and has built his reputation on getting the best out of players that some people have written off and forging an excellent team spirit wherever he goes. I note that he also said today that 'not when you meet some fans - they are not the full shilling but the fans here are generallynot like that'. Made me laugh anyway.
    A reputation which says whatever it is which makes him such a successful manager in the Championship deserts him when he gets to the higher level and, sadly, there is no sign of him turning that perception around this season yet.

    I think Tuerto makes some great points. I've said a few times that any side which gets ninety points and automatic promotion in a Championship season does not go up through some sort of fluke, but that's the attitude which so many who have Cardiff City's best interests at heart have displayed in response to what we achieved last season.

    We went up playing in a manner which would not endear ourselves to neutrals and when you add in that we have a manager who has made influential enemies in the media and within the game over a period of almost forty years we were never going to be media darlings - it's no surprise that nationally we have been derided and written off virtually since that draw with Reading back in May.

    What is a surprise though is that so many who want Cardiff to succeed have been prepared to write us off as well - if Neil Warnock's continual downbeat assessments of our chances every Friday are part of some sort of strategy to work things to our advantage, then it's too subtle for me and it must be a long term plan, because its certainly not worked so far.

    Based on places like this. too many of our fans were expecting the worst before a ball was kicked, hence the prevalence of all that "enjoy the ride" bollox. Based on what we've seen so far, we've looked like a bottom three, or even bottom of the table side, but, if we are to be that, can't we at least go down "having a go" in the manner Tuerto suggests? Yes, we did that against Burnley and were unlucky, but I've not really seen it in our other home games.

    Our first go at the Premier League was an abysmal failure on so many levels thank to a series of self inflicted wounds and our second one was, perhaps, derailed before it had even begun because of a sense of timidity which can be traced to our summer recruitment, through to the public utterances of our manager (does the fire which riled so many opponents, but inspired so many of his players, burn less brightly than it once did as he reaches his eighth decade of life?) and a support which, in many cases, seemed resigned to our fate from day one.

    Neil Warnock has a habit of saying "hey ho" in response to various challenges we have (e.g. multiple injuries, a testing set of fixtures or his modest transfer budget when compared to others). In many ways, this is an admirable trait and can be seen in a positive light, but it can also portray a sense of resignation sometimes and I feel that word is in danger of summing up our second Premier League campaign.

  5. #30

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    The ‘enjoy the ride’ brigade are becoming about as popular as the ‘tan bummers’ on here.

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    Re: Warnock

    Quote Originally Posted by Baloo View Post
    The ‘enjoy the ride’ brigade are becoming about as popular as the ‘tan bummers’ on here.
    I have just watched all 3 parts of Warnock's pre-Fulham press conference (much more revealing than Wales Online summaries) and I stick by my opinion that he is not writing off our chances of survival at all - quite the opposite despite the throw away 'wouldn't bet on us' comment that was mainly saying 'we can defy the odds again'.

    He is also now an ex member of the 'Enjoy The Ride' brigade.

  7. #32

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    Agree. We get it, he doesn't have to read out the terms of his insurance policy on a weekly basis. In my opinion he needs to be more adventurous and have more belief in his players. If he really believed that we didn't have a chance of staying up, then he'd be throwing punches like a boxer looking for a knockout in the 12th round. He doesn't really believe it, and saying that his product is going to fail is very defeatist, would you do a job where you had no chance of success? I wouldn't.

    We really need to become more positive at home, and more faith should be placed with the players. We are so conservative, half hearted attacks with midfielders sitting in, junior hoilett has stopped trying to go past players, Ken might as well collect the water bottles as he seems devoid of any confidence, Morrison panicking and making poor decisions, what the hell is going on? As fans, we've got to stop believing that we are crap, the players need to start expressing themselves and not play with fear, and Warnock needs to implement a more positive attack minded style of play at home that may see us get that vital win-Confidence-but he has to take risks. I can't say that one player has stood out for us so far, that's a disgrace and it tells me that there is little self belief. Time for Warnock and his staff to implement a quicker more positive style of play, starting tomorrow, i'm convinced that if we play a higher line and release midfielders, then we will get a result.
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