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Thread: America again.

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    America again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    It's been going on since Billy the kid

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    Another right-wing nutter who doesn't want to make America great again?

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    And Trump has the audacity to say there's a lot of hate in this country.

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    They need more guns to protect themselves!

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamieccfc View Post
    They need more guns to protect themselves!
    The shooters never seem to get shot by the people they target, though. Tell that to the NRA hotheads.

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    It'll all be Trumps Fault, you can bet your last penny on that

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Another right-wing nutter who doesn't want to make America great again?
    Are you being sarcastic?
    It's hardly likely to be a right wing nutter attacking a Synagogue!!
    Or do you just see all extremists as being right wing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    It'll all be Trumps Fault, you can bet your last penny on that
    oh yes he is a nutter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDerrida View Post
    Are you being sarcastic?
    It's hardly likely to be a right wing nutter attacking a Synagogue!!
    Or do you just see all extremists as being right wing?
    Are you being sarcastic?

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    We'll see won't we?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDerrida View Post
    We'll see won't we?
    Are you taking the philosophy of your namesake a little bit too seriously? This is a football message board and your mind games are unnecessarily opaque.

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    America appears to be descending into (even more) chaos under this loose cannon of a President who appears to be giving all the looneys and conspiracy theorists every encouragement to indulge their hate filled agendas.

    His latest comment about the shootings in the Synagogue were that they should have had security... Is that genuinely how he thinks Americans should live? With security guards everywhere they go? If so then the fall of the States is going to come far quicker than I thought, which is not going to be good for anyone in the liberal Western World who believes in rules and the law to sort out problems, rather than guns, bombs and knives...

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    The U.S. is way down the list of countries of firearm homicides per capita. Jamaica, Bahamas and Trinidad, to name but three, have a rate three times more. Brazil and El Salvador are six and ten times greater than the U.S. has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penarth Blues View Post
    America appears to be descending into (even more) chaos under this loose cannon of a President who appears to be giving all the looneys and conspiracy theorists every encouragement to indulge their hate filled agendas.

    His latest comment about the shootings in the Synagogue were that they should have had security... Is that genuinely how he thinks Americans should live? With security guards everywhere they go? If so then the fall of the States is going to come far quicker than I thought, which is not going to be good for anyone in the liberal Western World who believes in rules and the law to sort out problems, rather than guns, bombs and knives...
    Is that what he has said? Wow - what a dick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    The U.S. is way down the list of countries of firearm homicides per capita. Jamaica, Bahamas and Trinidad, to name but three, have a rate three times more. Brazil and El Salvador are six and ten times greater than the U.S. has.
    Not sure what point you're making here? Are you saying that's OK then? All the other places you highlight are relatively poor countries where crime has taken a firm hold.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maccy Blue View Post
    Is that what he has said? Wow - what a dick.
    https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/201...gogue-shooting

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    It'll all be Trumps Fault, you can bet your last penny on that
    I don’t see how you can’t think it isn’t? He’s empowering this sort of hatred with his rhetoric. Same as he empowered that lunatic who sent those bombs.

    Why do we always blame whoever has “radicalised” other terrorists but we can’t see the right wing media and trump are radicalising these lunatics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Another right-wing nutter who doesn't want to make America great again?
    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    It'll all be Trumps Fault, you can bet your last penny on that
    Genuine ****ing idiots, and people wonder how we ended up with brexit and a the government we have. Like listening to 2 idiots who’ve zero historical knowledge or education.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penarth Blues View Post
    Not sure what point you're making here? Are you saying that's OK then? All the other places you highlight are relatively poor countries where crime has taken a firm hold.
    I thought your descending into chaos remarks were both inaccurate and hysterical.

    Let's be frank, the corporate media has an unspoken hierarchy. Deaths of those in predominantly rich white countries are far more newsworthy and deserving of our sympathy than those which are not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    I don’t see how you can’t think it isn’t? He’s empowering this sort of hatred with his rhetoric. Same as he empowered that lunatic who sent those bombs.

    Why do we always blame whoever has “radicalised” other terrorists but we can’t see the right wing media and trump are radicalising these lunatics.
    History tells us the US have always had lunatics, it sure as hell isnt a new thing that just happened to come along when Trump got into Power

    Then the right wing, pretty sure the US had right wing before Trump aswell

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    Quote Originally Posted by rudy gestede View Post
    Genuine ****ing idiots, and people wonder how we ended up with brexit and a the government we have. Like listening to 2 idiots who’ve zero historical knowledge or education.
    Ohhhhh get you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    I thought your descending into chaos remarks were both inaccurate and hysterical.

    Let's be frank, the corporate media has an unspoken hierarchy. Deaths of those in predominantly rich white countries are far more newsworthy and deserving of our sympathy than those which are not.
    I don't believe my remarks are either inaccurate or hysterical but you're entitled to disagree. My observations are that a society is held together by us all agreeing to abide by certain codes of conduct and laws on what is/isn't permissible. When you have a president who seems to enjoy goading people and who clearly doesn't believe in the rule of law himself then it seems inevitable that the pillars that hold up society are going to be severely shaken.

    Whatever the agenda of the media re reporting of deaths it seems reasonably clear that some more extreme elements of American society are feeling more emboldened than they have in many years. I'm linking that to Trump you may just see it as business as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Another right-wing nutter who doesn't want to make America great again?
    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    It'll all be Trumps Fault, you can bet your last penny on that
    Quote Originally Posted by blue matt View Post
    History tells us the US have always had lunatics, it sure as hell isnt a new thing that just happened to come along when Trump got into Power

    Then the right wing, pretty sure the US had right wing before Trump aswell
    They’ve increased and the reasons have changed, a little bit of critical thinking would show this.

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    Seems the shooter believed that Trump has not gone far enough - apparently, he thinks he was "a globalist, not a nationalist".

    https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/27/u...mid=tw-nytimes

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/robert...ng-jews-on-gab

    http://uk.businessinsider.com/robert...ooting-2018-10

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    Was apparently parroting conspiracy shite that trump and farage have been saying in recent weeks. But obviously he wasn’t empowered or radicalised by trump, definitely not!

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    President Trump



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    Quote Originally Posted by JDerrida View Post
    Are you being sarcastic?
    It's hardly likely to be a right wing nutter attacking a Synagogue!!
    Or do you just see all extremists as being right wing?
    "For months, Robert D. Bowers had been spewing his anger in post after post on the web, calling immigrants “invaders,” distributing racist memes and asserting that Jews were the “enemy of white people.”"

    I'm willing to bet he's right wing

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    Re: America again.

    Quote Originally Posted by JDerrida View Post
    Are you being sarcastic?
    It's hardly likely to be a right wing nutter attacking a Synagogue!!
    Or do you just see all extremists as being right wing?
    Do you know what right wing means? Or do you prefer the trem "far right"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NYCBlue View Post
    Do you know what right wing means? Or do you prefer the trem "far right"?
    It’s hardly likely to be far right killing Jews!

    What does he think happened in WW2?

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