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  1. #1

    Re: America again.

    Quote Originally Posted by severncity View Post
    The 1951 General Election saw the Tories win even though they lost the popular vote. Would you support a system where all the votes nationally, in either the UK and US, were pooled and the party or president who’d gained the most votes wins?
    Why not? Otherwise it's akin to gerrymandering.

  2. #2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Why not? Otherwise it's akin to gerrymandering.
    See Wales-Bales’ posts immediately above yours.

  3. #3

    Re: America again.

    Quote Originally Posted by severncity View Post
    See Wales-Bales’ posts immediately above yours.
    No thanks.

  4. #4

    Re: America again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    No thanks.
    Truth hurts

    BTW Bob Mueller has just been Kavanaughed. Who should we believe this time?

  5. #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Truth hurts

    BTW Bob Mueller has just been Kavanaughed. Who should we believe this time?
    Who is the poor woman willing to put herself through this kind of ordeal?

  6. #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Who is the poor woman willing to put herself through this kind of ordeal?
    It should be fun though.. innocent until proven guilty, or guilty until proved innocent? What will the pundits have to say

  7. #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It should be fun though.. innocent until proven guilty, or guilty until proved innocent? What will the pundits have to say
    It should be fun.... have you no care for Muller's poor grandchildren

  8. #8

    Re: America again.

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Truth hurts

    BTW Bob Mueller has just been Kavanaughed. Who should we believe this time?
    Just in case anyone is not up to speed on WB's cryptic comments.

    Someone called Jack Burkman who badges himself as a Republican Lobbyist has invited the media to a press conference at a provincial Holiday Inn. There he has promised to unveil someone who will allege that Robert Mueller, the special prosecutor appointed to investigate Russian influence on the 2016 election, sexually assaulted her.

    Jack has previous in that he has been at the forefront in peddling the Seth Rich conspiracy theory, that the Clintons were instrumental in his assisination. Something WB has also pitched.

    Unfortunately for Jack, and WB, the woman lined up to make the accusation instead went to the press that people offered her money to clear her debts (they knew exactly the amount according to her) plus a sizeable sum. This was referred to Mueller who referred it back to the FBI for investigation.

    Instead of the major expose (close to major elections which I know WB hates) his twitter feed is now complaining how can Mueller get special treatment to investigate these claims that were not afforded to others.

  9. #9

    Re: America again.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Just in case anyone is not up to speed on WB's cryptic comments.

    Someone called Jack Burkman who badges himself as a Republican Lobbyist has invited the media to a press conference at a provincial Holiday Inn. There he has promised to unveil someone who will allege that Robert Mueller, the special prosecutor appointed to investigate Russian influence on the 2016 election, sexually assaulted her.

    Jack has previous in that he has been at the forefront in peddling the Seth Rich conspiracy theory, that the Clintons were instrumental in his assisination. Something WB has also pitched.

    Unfortunately for Jack, and WB, the woman lined up to make the accusation instead went to the press that people offered her money to clear her debts (they knew exactly the amount according to her) plus a sizeable sum. This was referred to Mueller who referred it back to the FBI for investigation.

    Instead of the major expose (close to major elections which I know WB hates) his twitter feed is now complaining how can Mueller get special treatment to investigate these claims that were not afforded to others.
    Exactly why I said he has been Kavanaughed, since his accusers were referred to the DOJ by the Judiciary committee for investigation.

    So just to make things clear, are you doubting this new accuser before she speaks? I have no opinion yet, but I was just curious about your opinion.

  10. #10

    Re: America again.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Just in case anyone is not up to speed on WB's cryptic comments.

    Someone called Jack Burkman who badges himself as a Republican Lobbyist has invited the media to a press conference at a provincial Holiday Inn. There he has promised to unveil someone who will allege that Robert Mueller, the special prosecutor appointed to investigate Russian influence on the 2016 election, sexually assaulted her.

    Jack has previous in that he has been at the forefront in peddling the Seth Rich conspiracy theory, that the Clintons were instrumental in his assisination. Something WB has also pitched.

    Unfortunately for Jack, and WB, the woman lined up to make the accusation instead went to the press that people offered her money to clear her debts (they knew exactly the amount according to her) plus a sizeable sum. This was referred to Mueller who referred it back to the FBI for investigation.

    Instead of the major expose (close to major elections which I know WB hates) his twitter feed is now complaining how can Mueller get special treatment to investigate these claims that were not afforded to others.
    The Republicans are a desperate party who will do desperate things. This was clearly a desperate attempt to smear Mueller. Good that it has backfired but it is appalling that this criminal behaviour is happening by the party in power.

  11. #11

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    The Republicans are a desperate party who will do desperate things. This was clearly a desperate attempt to smear Mueller. Good that it has backfired but it is appalling that this criminal behaviour is happening by the party in power.
    Tbf at the moment there is no direct link back to the Republican Party for what is unfolding. The people doing this have previous and obviously lean heavily towards Trump. What is unfolding looks so amateurish that associating it with a political party would be a step I wouldn't make. If you have read the e-mails from the women propositioned though the conspiracists knew intimate details about women who previously worked with Mueller many years ago, their current financial situation and their location which at the very least suggests access to some very sensitive personal data!

  12. #12

    Re: America again.

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    Just in case anyone is not up to speed on WB's cryptic comments.

    Someone called Jack Burkman who badges himself as a Republican Lobbyist has invited the media to a press conference at a provincial Holiday Inn. There he has promised to unveil someone who will allege that Robert Mueller, the special prosecutor appointed to investigate Russian influence on the 2016 election, sexually assaulted her.

    Jack has previous in that he has been at the forefront in peddling the Seth Rich conspiracy theory, that the Clintons were instrumental in his assisination. Something WB has also pitched.

    Unfortunately for Jack, and WB, the woman lined up to make the accusation instead went to the press that people offered her money to clear her debts (they knew exactly the amount according to her) plus a sizeable sum. This was referred to Mueller who referred it back to the FBI for investigation.

    Instead of the major expose (close to major elections which I know WB hates) his twitter feed is now complaining how can Mueller get special treatment to investigate these claims that were not afforded to others.
    So have I got this right?

    When sexual misconduct complaints are made against people from the right, trump/kavanaugh/etc, the story (never with evidence) is that the complainants are being paid to make it up.

    But a complaint or two against Mueller lasts about an hour before evidence that it's a bribe and fabrication comes to light.

  13. #13

    Re: America again.

    Quote Originally Posted by lardy View Post
    So have I got this right?

    When sexual misconduct complaints are made against people from the right, trump/kavanaugh/etc, the story (never with evidence) is that the complainants are being paid to make it up.

    But a complaint or two against Mueller lasts about an hour before evidence that it's a bribe and fabrication comes to light.
    WTF! They had a hearing so that the woman could tell her story!!!!

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