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There's no doubt elements of the media push a narrative that will help them (more often that not it's the right that does this) but to suggest they're all a disgrace is disingenuous and misleading, and recently has become dangerous. If we were to have a purely fact based narrative a calmer voice is necessary.Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
Both sides are at it, and it's not just in America, you only need to look at Brexit, and around Europe to see parallels. I believe we have reached a crossroads, and what we are now witnessing is an ideological war being played out amongst opposing factions of elites from around the world.
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
The Fake News is doing everything in their power to blame Republicans, Conservatives and me for the division and hatred that has been going on for so long in our Country. Actually, it is their Fake & Dishonest reporting which is causing problems far greater than they understand! There is great anger in our Country caused in part by inaccurate, and even fraudulent, reporting of the news. The Fake News Media, the true Enemy of the People, must stop the open & obvious hostility & report the news accurately & fairly. That will do much to put out the flame of Anger and Outrage and we will then be able to bring all sides together in Peace and Harmony. Fake News Must End!
5:12 pm - 28 Oct 2018
Blame blame blame. Why doesn't he give examples? I've said the media aren't perfect but this just tars everyone with the same brush. Surely, if you're addressing divides you have to be more diplomatic? But no: "fake news", "enemy of the people." And no 'leftist filter' either, just straight from the horse's mouth.
The way I read it, he is saying you have some news organisations who partake in fake news, and some who don't. So he is saying those who do should cut it out. He is not blaming all news outlets, only those who play fast and loose with the truth, or something like that.
He knows what he’s doing he always tweets anything about conspiracies because he knows it appeals to his base.
I used to think he did it because he was an idiot know I just think he does It because he has no morals and he knows it generates positivity among those who vote for him.
He's clever cos he's got the left going insane, while the right are eating out of his hand. This leads me to believe he wants to destroy the leadership of left and their allies, no matter what the collateral damage is. I certainly haven't seen any attempts of appeasement to show this isn't his strategy. Someone above mentioned a civil war. I think it's already in progress, but it's a cold war not a hot war.
What evidence do you have that Trump has anything approximating a strategy. Despite regular suggestions from some quarters that he is the Gary Kasparov of 4d chess all the evidence suggests that he lives off his instincts. How else can you explain his ability to read Presidential statements prepared for him from a teleprompter and ad-lib something venal and contradictory a few hours later.
For a start Trump is a sideshow, he's not the main event.
Sounds fantastic insight. Care to explain.
Trump is simply a clever divisive man, he's got a lot of folk jumping around .
I put him ignore a long time ago, he’s a genuine lunatic with issues. Talks nothing but bollocks and has never added anything worthwhile to a debate.
The very type of person who gets taken in by trump, Fox News and their conspiracy nonsense.
I contributed Operation Crossfire Hurricane being more to damaging to the perception of democracy than anything Trump has done. What have you contributed besides blah-blah about Fox News and their conspiracy nonsense?
It’s a generalization at a high level but don’t people have a very short sighted view of their own personal economic position?
If the election happened again tomorrow middle America would deliver the same result.
The NE would be an outlier
What? The person who got three million votes more (more that twice the margin leave won by in the Referendum) than the other contender would lose ?
In the States, it's more like 90% favouring the left.
They call it 'spinfluence'.
Because people already have the perception of Trump, they will believe 'anything' that is put out by the media.
Some of the comments on here attributed to Trump are just untrue or exaggeration. Obviously some true.
I am no Trump supporter, but do like to see and seek the truth. I don't just accept what is being said about someone I dislike, just because of a blind bias.
I can't stand the man since he allegedly bribed the Scottish Parliament, to accept his request to buy land for his golf courses on the East coast of Scotland.
The Scottish Parliament and he and his actions around this stank very badly and how he treated local people near the golf course location was appalling. He's a bully.
I certainly made a mistake about the disgusting human being that killed those poor people at the Synagogue. He is ultra right wing.
Trouble is, so much of what makes people judge Trump the way they do comes from his own mouth. As I said earlier in this thread, I despised Trump in the nineties and noughties when I didn't have a clue what his politics were. True, I don't like his politics now I'm aware of them, but my original dislike of the man had nothing to do with left or right, it was down to the type of person he is - it's strange, but I just can't stand obnoxious, egotistical boors.
Also, do you have anything in the form of proper evidence to back up your contention that 90% of the media in America favours the "left"?
If that’s the case why did you vote for Neil McEvoy?
Because he's a City fan, I also don't know as much about him as I do about Trump - this is a fairly minor thing, but it says so much about the sort of person Trump is;-
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Trump has a point. Fake news lardy was continually spreading discord by pumping out fake news Trump Russia Collusion propaganda on a daily basis, and most people on here believed it!
Sorry. - I have no idea what you’re talking about
All I'm saying is that the "same result" would see the candidate with the most votes losing because that's what happened first time around.
Huh?
"During the general election, Americans go to their polling place to cast their vote for president. But the tally of those votes — the popular vote — does not determine the winner. Instead, presidential elections use the Electoral College. To win the election, a candidate must receive a majority of electoral votes."
I know it doesn't, but it hardly strikes me as a great example of democracy in action when you can get anomalies like that - I'd say exactly the same thing if Clinton was now President with the election having gone the same way but with it being Trump who got three million more votes.
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