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    Defences

    As things stand, the ten teams whose defences have conceded the most goals so far this season in the top five European leagues are as follows:

    31 - Fulham (England)
    30 - Chievo (Italy)
    28 - Guingamp (France)
    26 - Genoa (Italy)
    25 - Burnley (England)
    25 - Cardiff (England)
    25 - Fortuna Dusseldorf (Germany)
    25 - Frosinone (Italy)
    25 - Huesca (Spain)
    25 - Rayo Vallecano (Spain)


    It's no great surprise to see Cardiff and Fulham on the list given the step up in class they are facing this season, but what on earth has happened to Burnley's defence? After 12 games of the 2017/18 campaign, they'd already faced the likes of Manchester City, Chelsea, Liverpool and Spurs, but had conceded just 9 goals. Indeed, they only conceded 39 goals during the whole of 2017/18 with what was effectively the same defence as they have now.

    After 12 games of the 2017/18 Championship campaign, City had conceded just 10 goals and Fulham had conceded 11. By way of comparison, Wolves, who have conceded 13 Premier League goals this season, had conceded 9 in the Championship in 2017/18.

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  3. #3

    Re: Defences

    Get down with kids mate it's all to do with expected goals now.

  4. #4

    Re: Defences

    We give up an average number of shots, but pretty big chances.
    Burnley are facing a huge amount of shots per match.
    Neither are good situations to be in.

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    Re: Defences

    Quote Originally Posted by insider View Post
    Get down with kids mate it's all to do with expected goals now.
    Innit? And what the **** is that all about?


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    Re: Defences

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Burnley are facing a huge amount of shots per match.
    Has anything major changed within their squad? Maybe midfield changes? Don't know, but it's an odd one.

  7. #7

    Re: Defences

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Has anything major changed within their squad? Maybe midfield changes? Don't know, but it's an odd one.
    Didn’t that pre season UEFA cup qualifying (or whatever it’s called) possibly have an effect maybe?

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    Re: Defences

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Has anything major changed within their squad? Maybe midfield changes? Don't know, but it's an odd one.
    pl-scatter-def.jpg

    This shows last season. They were still giving up a number of shots, but soaking up a lot more of them.

    I guess they concede a lot of possession generally, but in the past have restricted teams to pot shots from distance.
    This season teams seem to have worked out ways to engineer good chances against them. They could actually be in trouble this season.

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    Re: Defences

    IMG_20181112_174707.jpg
    Expected goals this season Vs
    pl-scatter-eg.jpg
    Expected goals last.

    There's a clear difference in xG conceded for Burnley, which suggests that teams haven't just been lucky with the same potshots that didn't go in last season, but in fact they have been allowing better or more chances.

    Apologies for image quality

  10. #10

    Re: Defences

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Has anything major changed within their squad? Maybe midfield changes? Don't know, but it's an odd one.
    Simple really. Joe Hart

  11. #11

    Re: Defences

    Quote Originally Posted by StraightOuttaCanton View Post
    Simple really. Joe Hart
    You could have a point there, but they are also allowing better chances.

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