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Thread: Have we got the laziest players in the division.

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    Have we got the laziest players in the division.

    https://www.theguardian.com/football...mes-statistics

    This really surprised me and thought our players would be running far more than the average. The conclusion is that the higher up the club the more their players run.

    This was just one bit from the report:

    Effort
    There is a fairly clear statistical link between effort expended and results achieved. The 10 teams that have collectively run the furthest contain seven of the top 10 and all of the top six; of the seven teams that have run the least six are in the bottom half and three in the bottom four. The key exceptions are Crystal Palace and Huddersfield, eighth and ninth on the list but stuck in the bottom five, while Manchester United have outrun only four teams, yet retain European ambitions. While most of the 20 teams are fairly tightly clustered Cardiff have run more than 40km less than any other side, and more than 130km less than Arsenal, who top the effort table.

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    Re: Have we got the laziest players in the division.

    Quote Originally Posted by HaveringBluebird View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/football...mes-statistics

    This really surprised me and thought our players would be running far more than the average. The conclusion is that the higher up the club the more their players run.

    This was just one bit from the report:

    Effort
    There is a fairly clear statistical link between effort expended and results achieved. The 10 teams that have collectively run the furthest contain seven of the top 10 and all of the top six; of the seven teams that have run the least six are in the bottom half and three in the bottom four. The key exceptions are Crystal Palace and Huddersfield, eighth and ninth on the list but stuck in the bottom five, while Manchester United have outrun only four teams, yet retain European ambitions. While most of the 20 teams are fairly tightly clustered Cardiff have run more than 40km less than any other side, and more than 130km less than Arsenal, who top the effort table.
    Clearly that has a lot to do with tactics rather than effort

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    Re: Have we got the laziest players in the division.

    Our full backs don't get forward. That's going to affect us in terms of distance, most sides fullbacks would run the furthest in a game, ours hardly cross half way.

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    Re: Have we got the laziest players in the division.

    you don't need to run so far when you are only playing in one half of the field!!!!!

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    Re: Have we got the laziest players in the division.

    That doesn't apply to all players. Take Aguero for example. He hardly moved against us but when the opportunity arose he scored. The statistics prove nothing.

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    Re: Have we got the laziest players in the division.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    That doesn't apply to all players. Take Aguero for example. He hardly moved against us but when the opportunity arose he scored. The statistics prove nothing.
    And too much running may indicate that a player gets caught out of position easily.

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    Re: Have we got the laziest players in the division.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    That doesn't apply to all players. Take Aguero for example. He hardly moved against us but when the opportunity arose he scored. The statistics prove nothing.
    Running stats are worthless, nobody uses them. All about high intensity sprints, apparently.

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    Re: Have we got the laziest players in the division.

    We keep our shape and tend not to press too much when we lose the ball.

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    Re: Have we got the laziest players in the division.

    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    you don't need to run so far when you are only playing in one half of the field!!!!!
    Exactly my first thought

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    Re: Have we got the laziest players in the division.

    NW plays a relatively static style. We move the ball quickly, we play with wingers that move from the halfway line to the byline, the players don't move that much off the ball. While I think it would be unfair to call us a long ball team, we're not a short passing team either.

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    Re: Have we got the laziest players in the division.

    Whilst I wouldn't say that you don't need to be fit (basically because you have to be!) the thing that sticks with me from my playing is "let the ball do the work".
    Man City seem to who incidentally are the exemplar for how football should be played these days and are bang in the middle.

    You need a mixture of talent, fitness and most importantly, tactical nous of your own abilities and your opposition's for success.

    Stats, schmatz!
    Lazy journalism derived from a spreadsheet and I see this piece as just another stick for the pundits and "experts" to hit us with.

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    Re: Have we got the laziest players in the division.

    Maybe more possession = more movement, compared to staying put and rigid when defending?

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