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    Being in front and behind in games - some stats

    I've been looking at how long teams lead and trail in games. Some numbing stats coming up so feel free to navigate away at this point!!

    I accept there might be errors in published goal times on the BBC website. Regardless of that, without including injury time, but classing a winning goal in the 90th minute as a 1 minute lead, we've been in front for 74 minutes this entire season in the league. We led for 21 minutes at Chelsea, 39 minutes in total against Fulham, a minute against Brighton and 13 minutes against Wolves. It may not come as much of a surprise to find out that all the other teams in the Premier League have held leads longer than us. Burnley come next, having been in front for 126 mins, Fulham 168, Palace 181 (tables supplied below).

    It's maybe better news that 2 sides have been behind in games longer than we have. We've been behind for 562 minutes- a mere 8 hours and 8 minutes longer than we've been ahead! Fulham top the trailing tree, having spent a whopping 10 hours and 54 minutes of their 21 hours on the field.

    Amount of time ahead:

    1 Manchester City 857
    2 Liverpool 634
    3 Tottenham H 592
    4 Chelsea 508
    5 Bournemouth 400
    6 West Ham 384
    7 Watford 377
    8 Brighton 340
    9 Arsenal 339
    10 Manchester Utd 322
    11 Everton 299
    12 Huddersfield 273
    13 Leicester City 273
    14 Newcastle Utd 261
    15 Wolves 207
    16 Southampton 205
    17 Crystal Palace 181
    18 Fulham 168
    19 Burnley 126
    20 Cardiff City 74

    Amount of time behind:

    1 Manchester City 12
    2 Liverpool 64
    3 Chelsea 120
    4 Everton 179
    5 Tottenham H 185
    6 Arsenal 258
    7 Bournemouth 292
    8 Crystal Palace 312
    9 Watford 344
    10 Southampton 348
    11 West Ham 374
    12 Newcastle Utd 391
    13 Wolves 408
    14 Brighton 419
    15 Manchester Utd 419
    16 Leicester City 452
    17 Huddersfield 475
    18 Cardiff City 562
    19 Burnley 574
    20 Fulham 654

    Difference:

    1 Manchester City 845
    2 Liverpool 570
    3 Tottenham H 407
    4 Chelsea 388
    5 Everton 120
    6 Bournemouth 108
    7 Arsenal 81
    8 Watford 33
    9 West Ham 10
    10 Brighton -79
    11 Manchester Utd -97
    12 Newcastle Utd -130
    13 Crystal Palace -131
    14 Southampton -143
    15 Leicester City -179
    16 Wolves -201
    17 Huddersfield -202
    18 Burnley -448
    19 Fulham -486
    20 Cardiff City -488

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    Re: Being in front and behind in games - some stats

    How about calculating the proportion of goals scores by each clun in the last 15 or 20 minutes?

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    Re: Being in front and behind in games - some stats

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    I've been looking at how long teams lead and trail in games. Some numbing stats coming up so feel free to navigate away at this point!!

    I accept there might be errors in published goal times on the BBC website. Regardless of that, without including injury time, but classing a winning goal in the 90th minute as a 1 minute lead, we've been in front for 74 minutes this entire season in the league. We led for 21 minutes at Chelsea, 39 minutes in total against Fulham, a minute against Brighton and 13 minutes against Wolves. It may not come as much of a surprise to find out that all the other teams in the Premier League have held leads longer than us. Burnley come next, having been in front for 126 mins, Fulham 168, Palace 181 (tables supplied below).

    It's maybe better news that 2 sides have been behind in games longer than we have. We've been behind for 562 minutes- a mere 8 hours and 8 minutes longer than we've been ahead! Fulham top the trailing tree, having spent a whopping 10 hours and 54 minutes of their 21 hours on the field.

    Amount of time ahead:

    1 Manchester City 857
    2 Liverpool 634
    3 Tottenham H 592
    4 Chelsea 508
    5 Bournemouth 400
    6 West Ham 384
    7 Watford 377
    8 Brighton 340
    9 Arsenal 339
    10 Manchester Utd 322
    11 Everton 299
    12 Huddersfield 273
    13 Leicester City 273
    14 Newcastle Utd 261
    15 Wolves 207
    16 Southampton 205
    17 Crystal Palace 181
    18 Fulham 168
    19 Burnley 126
    20 Cardiff City 74

    Amount of time behind:

    1 Manchester City 12
    2 Liverpool 64
    3 Chelsea 120
    4 Everton 179
    5 Tottenham H 185
    6 Arsenal 258
    7 Bournemouth 292
    8 Crystal Palace 312
    9 Watford 344
    10 Southampton 348
    11 West Ham 374
    12 Newcastle Utd 391
    13 Wolves 408
    14 Brighton 419
    15 Manchester Utd 419
    16 Leicester City 452
    17 Huddersfield 475
    18 Cardiff City 562
    19 Burnley 574
    20 Fulham 654

    Difference:

    1 Manchester City 845
    2 Liverpool 570
    3 Tottenham H 407
    4 Chelsea 388
    5 Everton 120
    6 Bournemouth 108
    7 Arsenal 81
    8 Watford 33
    9 West Ham 10
    10 Brighton -79
    11 Manchester Utd -97
    12 Newcastle Utd -130
    13 Crystal Palace -131
    14 Southampton -143
    15 Leicester City -179
    16 Wolves -201
    17 Huddersfield -202
    18 Burnley -448
    19 Fulham -486
    20 Cardiff City -488
    Interesting stuff Eric, thanks. Another very revealing stat is that we have only been 1-0 ahead for those twenty one minutes at Chelsea all season - I can't see how we can hope to stay up unless we can rediscover the knack of scoring first in a game.

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    Re: Being in front and behind in games - some stats

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Interesting stuff Eric, thanks. Another very revealing stat is that we have only been 1-0 ahead for those twenty one minutes at Chelsea all season - I can't see how we can hope to stay up unless we can rediscover the knack of scoring first in a game.
    We got to stop conceding soft goals from set plays, I think we should try marking zonal as we can’t seem to cope with man marking

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    Re: Being in front and behind in games - some stats

    Quote Originally Posted by jamieccfc View Post
    We got to stop conceding soft goals from set plays, I think we should try marking zonal as we can’t seem to cope with man marking
    Changing a Marking system mid way through a season is usually a disaster isn't it?

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    Re: Being in front and behind in games - some stats

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    Changing a Marking system mid way through a season is usually a disaster isn't it?
    How much more of a disaster could it be? We do miss zohore at the near post

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    Re: Being in front and behind in games - some stats

    Quote Originally Posted by jamieccfc View Post
    How much more of a disaster could it be? We do miss zohore at the near post
    The problem is we miss him even when he's there!!!

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    Re: Being in front and behind in games - some stats

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Interesting stuff Eric, thanks. Another very revealing stat is that we have only been 1-0 ahead for those twenty one minutes at Chelsea all season - I can't see how we can hope to stay up unless we can rediscover the knack of scoring first in a game.
    There's a point. We haven't scored first at home this season, yet have won 3 games. I can't imagine that happening before at this stage of the season.

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