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  1. #31

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    And a fourth. Tell me what you said 2 years ago.
    Read above!

  2. #32

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    It's immaterial because they didn't want any actionable leave result, the intention was to stay in the EU! They already had the contingency plan ready and waiting in the form of Theresa May.
    Of course it's not immaterial. There's talk of civil war if Brexit doesn't happen. The issue was/is so divisive.

    If it was immaterial, why didn't Cameron say, as he could have done, thanks for the result in this advisory referendum, we'll consider it as part of government policy, instead of it being something the government said needed to be acted on? Why let it run for 2 years instead of nipping it in the bud?

  3. #33

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    That doesn't make sense whatsoever. Again, I'll ask. Would the leave campaign have been happy for it to have been a straight shoot out between leave everything, no-deal and remain?
    We discussed this topic to death two years ago. My prediction was spot-on. Goodnight!

  4. #34

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    We discussed this topic to death two years ago. My prediction was spot-on. Goodnight!
    Yet you won't answer my questions. Typical Brexiter.

  5. #35

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Of course it's not immaterial. There's talk of civil war if Brexit doesn't happen. The issue was/is so divisive.

    If it was immaterial, why didn't Cameron say, as he could have done, thanks for the result in this advisory referendum, we'll consider it as part of government policy, instead of it being something the government said needed to be acted on? Why let it run for 2 years instead of nipping it in the bud?
    Because there was already a contingency plan in place for May and her pals to step in, so Cameron made an immediate exit. Sweet dreams

  6. #36

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Yet you won't answer my questions. Typical Brexiter.
    You have as much chance of accidentally treading in unicorn shit as getting a straight answer I am afraid.

  7. #37

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Because there was already a contingency plan in place for May and her pals to step in, so Cameron made an immediate exit. Sweet dreams
    Still talking out of your arse and avoiding my questions like the knob you are.

    Why did May call an election? Are you saying she knew there would be a hung parliament to aid he cause when her party were 20 points ahead in the polls?

  8. #38

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by cyril evans awaydays View Post
    You have as much chance of accidentally treading in unicorn shit as getting a straight answer I am afraid.
    Of course, but it's still fun to win another battle with a leave voter.

  9. #39

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Are parliament in contempt of the peoples voting decision.

  10. #40

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Are parliament in contempt of the peoples voting decision.
    Quite a few people have explained why this is a stupid question already

  11. #41

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Still talking out of your arse and avoiding my questions like the knob you are.

    Why did May call an election? Are you saying she knew there would be a hung parliament to aid he cause when her party were 20 points ahead in the polls?
    If anybody is a knob it's you, and a stupid one at that. We were discussing the 2016 referendem, it's aftermath, and the scheme to remain attached to the EU, and you randomly changed the topic to the general election.

    Since you have now pivoted, I thought it would be obvious to anybody who was paying attention that after a prolonged establishment smear campaign against Corbyn, May thought thought she could remove him as Labour leader at the ballot box. She was hoping that a likeminded globalist Blairite would take over at the despatch box and assist her with her EU dreams. It turned out to be a huge miscalculation, and now they are scrambling to avoid us leaving without a deal, which is what the true brexiteers want.

  12. #42

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    Of course, but it's still fun to win another battle with a leave voter.
    No fecking chance mate!

    BTW I didn't vote leave, I'm just observing events unfold.

  13. #43

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    If anybody is a knob it's you, and a stupid one at that. We were discussing the 2016 referendem, it's aftermath, and the scheme to remain attached to the EU, and you randomly changed the topic to the general election.

    Since you have now pivoted, I thought it would be obvious to anybody who was paying attention that after a prolonged establishment smear campaign against Corbyn, May thought thought she could remove him as Labour leader at the ballot box. She was hoping that a likeminded globalist Blairite would take over at the despatch box and assist her with her EU dreams. It turned out to be a huge miscalculation, and now they are scrambling to avoid us leaving without a deal, which is what the true brexiteers want.
    Are there any true Brexiteers in parliament?

  14. #44

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Are there any true Brexiteers in parliament?
    Good question, I wouldn't trust any of them

  15. #45

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Good question, I wouldn't trust any of them
    So you think the best explanation for what is going on now is that it is all a performance and none of them believe in brexit

  16. #46

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    So you think the best explanation for what is going on now is that it is all a performance and none of them believe in brexit
    Politics is a horrible business full of horrible people. The bits we get to see are all an act, and they are definitely not working on behalf of the electorate.

  17. #47

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    If anybody is a knob it's you, and a stupid one at that. We were discussing the 2016 referendem, it's aftermath, and the scheme to remain attached to the EU, and you randomly changed the topic to the general election.

    Since you have now pivoted, I thought it would be obvious to anybody who was paying attention that after a prolonged establishment smear campaign against Corbyn, May thought thought she could remove him as Labour leader at the ballot box. She was hoping that a likeminded globalist Blairite would take over at the despatch box and assist her with her EU dreams. It turned out to be a huge miscalculation, and now they are scrambling to avoid us leaving without a deal, which is what the true brexiteers want.
    The irony, the sweet, sweet irony

  18. #48

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric the Half a Bee View Post
    So what did the people vote for? No-deal? Norway style? May's deal? Don't say leave, as we know leave meant a lot of different things.
    People voted in silos, North East was fishing , run down coastal towns and poorer northern towns saw immigration effecting their services , farmers felt the French had a better deal . What I have never really worked out was what Labour voters were voting for in places like Wales , where Europe delivered a lot of funding ,and saw us as a net beneficiary .

  19. #49

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Politics is a horrible business full of horrible people. The bits we get to see are all an act, and they are definitely not working on behalf of the electorate.
    So everybody is in on it?

    Now moving onto the civil service, lots of them involved in this production, are they all acting too? Press? Them too?

  20. #50

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    People voted in silos, North East was fishing , run down coastal towns and poorer northern towns saw immigration effecting their services , farmers felt the French had a better deal . What I have never really worked out was what Labour voters were voting for in places like Wales , where Europe delivered a lot of funding ,and saw us as a net beneficiary .
    You know he means which version of leave and not why. You avoided answering this question in another thread too, why?

  21. #51

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    You know he means which version of leave and not why. You avoided answering this question in another thread too, why?
    Because I'm a silly billy

  22. #52

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    So everybody is in on it?

    Now moving onto the civil service, lots of them involved in this production, are they all acting too? Press? Them too?
    Gosh you noticed that as well , bloody all in on it ,good spot WB, EC has seen the same behaviours from a number of parts of society, sharp observations.

  23. #53

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Because I'm a silly billy
    Or is it because, despite spending hours waffling on about Brexit on here, you don't actually know what May's deal is, what is meant by 'Norway' or even no deal?

  24. #54

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Eric Cartman View Post
    Or is it because, despite spending hours waffling on about Brexit on here, you don't actually know what May's deal is, what is meant by 'Norway' or even no deal?
    No not really , Its like being in one of those child like American cartoons,where one simply mocks itself , in the name of comedy.

  25. #55

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    If anybody is a knob it's you, and a stupid one at that. We were discussing the 2016 referendem, it's aftermath, and the scheme to remain attached to the EU, and you randomly changed the topic to the general election.

    Since you have now pivoted, I thought it would be obvious to anybody who was paying attention that after a prolonged establishment smear campaign against Corbyn, May thought thought she could remove him as Labour leader at the ballot box. She was hoping that a likeminded globalist Blairite would take over at the despatch box and assist her with her EU dreams. It turned out to be a huge miscalculation, and now they are scrambling to avoid us leaving without a deal, which is what the true brexiteers want.
    Corbyn has made a complete mess of this issue without needing the help of anyone else - after watching all of his speech in the debate on May's deal on Tuesday, I'm still none the wiser, some two and a half years after the referendum, as to what his true feelings on the subject of Brexit are

  26. #56

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by the other bob wilson View Post
    Corbyn has made a complete mess of this issue without needing the help of anyone else - after watching all of his speech in the debate on May's deal on Tuesday, I'm still none the wiser, some two and a half years after the referendum, as to what his true feelings on the subject of Brexit are
    I don't see any future for Corbyn inside of the Labour Party unless a deselection process is used to clear out the Blairites, and he has probably lost the momentum to do that. I may be wrong, but I think time has passed him by, especially with his dilly-dallying over Brexit. Labour in its present form will never unite under him, which helps the Conservatives considerably. I'd like to see a new centrist party emerge who could cherry-pick their policies, without being beholden to the left or the right, but not the one that Blair and Osborne have been talking about!

  27. #57

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    Politics is a horrible business full of horrible people. The bits we get to see are all an act, and they are definitely not working on behalf of the electorate.
    Keep banging the drum, comrade. Together in alliance with Mrs Steve R we will free their minds.

  28. #58

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    If you've never seen it, watch the film The Matrix as it's one of the best ever made. It stars Keanu Reeves who plays a character known as Neo. He learns there's two realities, a fake one, The Matrix, in which virtually all people believe, and a real one which very few are aware of. Wales-Bales, Mrs Steve R and I have fully escaped The Matrix. While Wales-Bales and I reveal the truth in bitesize pieces, Mrs Steve R's role is to ensure steaming brews and tasty scones are readily available to sustain us.

    For thousands of years the keystone of the false construct was religions centered on an asexual being known as God. People were - and still are - brainwashed from birth to conform to their parents set of beliefs. Christians, for example, learn that thou shall not kill, steal, arse-end thy neighbour's goat, etc. While many of the principles remain worthy and helped build a more peaceful, cohesive and harmonious society, its primary purpose was to exercise control for the benefit of a small elite to consolidate their wealth and power and influence over everyone else. It's why today most British land is owned in relatively few hands and the Church of England is an immensely wealthy institution.

    While millions of Britons and other citizens of First World countries abandon that hoax, a great many have instead been seduced by the lure of materialism, an enormous celebrity cult and the worship of money, particularly all they can grab from everyone else via the benefit system whether they need it or not. They've embraced decadence, permissiveness, illegal drugs and a vacuous popular culture that's designed to lower their collective IQ, promote selfishness and narcissism, weaken communities, undermine what was the traditional family structure and reduce a sense of nationhood. Obviously, to those outside The Matrix, the importation of swathes of impossible to integrate followers of a cave dweller who had a proclivity for molesting preteen girls was designed to accelerate the process. A hopelessly indebted, dumbed-down, divided and fractured citizenry is to the advantage of those who operate The Matrix to a spectacularly successful degree. Oxfam says 8 people own the equivalent wealth of 3.6 billion people, half the world's population.

    Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world: https://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/p...lth-half-world

  29. #59

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Quote Originally Posted by Organ Morgan. View Post
    If you've never seen it, watch the film The Matrix as it's one of the best ever made. It stars Keanu Reeves who plays a character known as Neo. He learns there's two realities, a fake one, The Matrix, in which virtually all people believe, and a real one which very few are aware of. Wales-Bales, Mrs Steve R and I have fully escaped The Matrix. While Wales-Bales and I reveal the truth in bitesize pieces, Mrs Steve R's role is to ensure steaming brews and tasty scones are readily available to sustain us.

    For thousands of years the keystone of the false construct was religions centered on an asexual being known as God. People were - and still are - brainwashed from birth to conform to their parents set of beliefs. Christians, for example, learn that thou shall not kill, steal, arse-end thy neighbour's goat, etc. While many of the principles remain worthy and helped build a more peaceful, cohesive and harmonious society, its primary purpose was to exercise control for the benefit of a small elite to consolidate their wealth and power and influence over everyone else. It's why today most British land is owned in relatively few hands and the Church of England is an immensely wealthy institution.

    While millions of Britons and other citizens of First World countries abandon that hoax, a great many have instead been seduced by the lure of materialism, an enormous celebrity cult and the worship of money, particularly all they can grab from everyone else via the benefit system whether they need it or not. They've embraced decadence, permissiveness, illegal drugs and a vacuous popular culture that's designed to lower their collective IQ, promote selfishness and narcissism, weaken communities, undermine what was the traditional family structure and reduce a sense of nationhood. Obviously, to those outside The Matrix, the importation of swathes of impossible to integrate followers of a cave dweller who had a proclivity for molesting preteen girls was designed to accelerate the process. A hopelessly indebted, dumbed-down, divided and fractured citizenry is to the advantage of those who operate The Matrix to a spectacularly successful degree. Oxfam says 8 people own the equivalent wealth of 3.6 billion people, half the world's population.

    Just 8 men own same wealth as half the world: https://www.oxfam.org/en/pressroom/p...lth-half-world
    I liked the way you prefaced how Keanu Reeves starred in The Matrix (an irrelevance to your argument) before railing against celebrity cults.

    The Matrix netted $400m for its makers Warner Brothers and the two other films in the trilogy a further $1b. This materialism allowed it to embrace decadence and permissiveness in films such as Eyes Wide Shut and vacuous popular culture movies such as The Pokemon series.

    Its parent company Time Warner has on its Board of Directors, Mathias Dopfner, a Bilderberger. It is currently undergoing a mega-merger with AT&T creating one of the globes biggest multi-nationals.

    It's an ill wind that blows nobody any good sometimes but don't let me get in the way way of your polemic and admiration of the film, its stars and makers!

  30. #60

    Re: Government in contempt of Parliament

    Grenfell Tower, destroyed in a raging inferno 18 months ago, remains standing. Building 7, one of three which collapsed on 9-11, fell into its own footprint within hours of a few mysterious office fires breaking out. Only those who are determined to resolutely stay within The Matrix refuse to apply an iota of logic as to why the inexplicable occurred.

    You, Cyril, deserve your enslavement.

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