Best anti religion book I have ever read , Sam Harris, letter to a Christian nation

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Apart from alcohol the most evil drug of them all

Really ? The same old argument from the drug taking community...

[jamieccfc]

Really ? The same old argument from the drug taking community...

I wonder what the crime rate would be alcohol vs marijuana? I know where I would place my bet

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Doubting Thomas now?

You know it's not possible to give you a recording of St John, but you should read his words with an open mind, not locked into hatred and criticism.

Oh I have all religion you got that right , it's evil

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Sludge, what you'll find is that it was the people at the top of the tree who had most to gain who supported Dictatorships, not about religion, more about power, you are talking about the establishment, the rule makers, but then you lump everyone with religion into the same category, that's ridiculous. You wouldn't generalise about poor people, black people or women, why do it with people who are religious-is it because it's an easy target? You are getting a bit mixed up with those at the top who are only interested in power. That isn't only a problem with religion. Incidentally, most of the people at the top of the Religious tree are men, why don't you attack men as well?

We all know men and religion are *****

[Elwood Blues]

Have you got a recording of st John saying this .............I know jfk was shot because it's on film

St John might have been a tree for all we know

Yes but do you know who shot JFK?????

[Duggie]

It's not the choice of the indigenous people of South America who were brutalised into Catholicism

Another reason I differentiate between the Roman Catholic church and Christians. If you research into why the RC church was set up by Constantine you’ll see why. The RC church has done many good things and many, many aweful things inc. South America and the Crusades. But ultimately they have taken over the role of the Pharisees and Sadducees as “Religious Leaders”, the very people Jesus railed against for lacking faith and misusing the temple. Look at all the wealth they have amassed, that’s just not right.

[Duggie]

I've been to a few catholic "christenings" , and the priests said "I baptise thee , in the name of the father etc." Were they lying?

They are not really lying if they don’t understand the difference and don’t know better.

[Duggie]

A question for those who were “Raised Catholic”, not to offend but just for me to improve my understanding. Did you read/study the bible for yourself, or did you read other sources of information, or did you rely on what priests told you ?

[Harry Monk]

A question for those who were “Raised Catholic”, not to offend but just for me to improve my understanding. Did you read/study the bible for yourself, or did you read other sources of information, or did you rely on what priests told you ?

I read a couple of versions of the book myself, along with other religious texts. I then used my own personal experiences of both the catholic church and my day to day life, along with logic, to realise that they were nothing but stories to appease the fear of death and to control the populous.

Now some questions for you - which version of the bible do you believe and which bits of it do you not take literally?

[The Bob Banker Spanker]

A question for those who were “Raised Catholic”, not to offend but just for me to improve my understanding. Did you read/study the bible for yourself, or did you read other sources of information, or did you rely on what priests told you ?

Read a lot of the bible in RE lessons where the teacher was not a priest/monk/nun. In fact, going to church or even seeing a priest was quite rare when in St Illtyds never mind getting preached to by them.
Most of the church going events occurred in primary school.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

A question for those who were “Raised Catholic”, not to offend but just for me to improve my understanding. Did you read/study the bible for yourself, or did you read other sources of information, or did you rely on what priests told you ?

I just sat there and thought of girls and football ........honestly.......

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Yes but do you know who shot JFK?????

It was the lone gunman but he's lying low on here as the old bill are after him , I know where he lives but he's not in

[Duggie]

I read a couple of versions of the book myself, along with other religious texts. I then used my own personal experiences of both the catholic church and my day to day life, along with logic, to realise that they were nothing but stories to appease the fear of death and to control the populous.

Now some questions for you - which version of the bible do you believe and which bits of it do you not take literally?

KJV, I think it’s the most accurate (but still not perfect) translation we have. The trouble is, others have Copyrights attached, and to get a copyright you have to make (I think) something like 1000 changes, which have altered the maening of the text in many places.

Most obvious example for not taking literally is much of Revelation plus many of Jesus’ own allegorical teaching etc.

[Harry Monk]

KJV, I think it’s the most accurate (but still not perfect) translation we have. The trouble is, others have Copyrights attached, and to get a copyright you have to make (I think) something like 1000 changes, which have altered the maening of the text in many places.

Most obvious example for not taking literally is much of Revelation plus many of Jesus’ own allegorical teaching etc.

Doesn't the KJV refer to Unicorns and Satyrs?

[Duggie]

https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/fran...wanda-genocide

Don’t get me started, it won’t end well 😂

[celticknight]

Sam Harris, a man who shut down his Patreon website account because he didn't agree with them banning someone who called people "******s" and "faggots".

Classy guy.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Sam Harris, a man who shut down his Patreon website account because he didn't agree with them banning someone who called people "******s" and "faggots".

Classy guy.

He believes in free speech , I don't agree as with free speech comes responsibility but I don't think he's yet killed anyone in the name of a cloud in the sky

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Really ? The same old argument from the drug taking community...

And the police , hospitals , beaten wives

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Blimey, did you really write that ?

Religious faith is a personal matter. I'm just amazed how other peoples' beliefs bothers so many, so aggressively.

Well you certainly wouldn't be capable of writing it given your bollocks on smoking a joint

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Well you certainly wouldn't be capable of writing it given your bollocks on smoking a joint

Your're quite a nasty bloke sometimes aren't you.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Blimey, did you really write that ?

Religious faith is a personal matter. I'm just amazed how other peoples' beliefs bothers so many, so aggressively.

Can you point out the last time a bunch of aethiests strapped bombs to themselves or shot doctors outside abortion clinics ?

[CardiffIrish2]

It probably is nonsense.
But I like being Catholic, take the best bits of it and ignore the dogmatic nonsense and it’s ok.
I like being part of the parish community, was glad I was educated in that system and due to the amount of catholic’s there’s always a wedding, birthday party. Communion party etc etc etc to go to.
I can’t logically justify it, but **** it like going to Mass and being part of something.
If it is nonsense I won’t know when I die so hey ho.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

Your're quite a nasty bloke sometimes aren't you.

Typical tory

[Organ Morgan.]

This downer you have on Catholicism is only temporary. You'll be back in the the front pew at St Cuthbert's Church when your three-month exclusion expires. You deserved a longer, much longer, ban for the crude remarks you made to that buxom organist. What her chest measurements are and what they may weigh is no business of yours.

[SLUDGE FACTORY]

This downer you have on Catholicism is only temporary. You'll be back in the the front pew at St Cuthbert's Church when your three-month exclusion expires. You deserved a longer, much longer, ban for the crude remarks you made to that buxom organist. What her chest measurements are and what they may weigh is no business of yours.

Don't mess with the docks catholics