Time for our Club to 'grow a pair'...

[A Quiet Monkfish]

yesterday's result aside, I'm at a loss to fully understand why we are so inept in our transfer dealings. Agreed we have a lower wage structure and Warnock's playing style isn't to everyone's taste, but we are a Premier league club outside the bottom 3 with half a season gone.

We make excuse upon excuse why players don't join us, yet Huddersfield who are in deep, deep trouble, are able to get a Liverpool England under 23 full back and Jason Puncheon from Palace already. And I can't see that living in Huddersfield would be any more attractive than Cardiff.

One thing's for certain - Burnley, Fulham, Southampton, all look like they're on the up even before any new signings. We haven't got a chance without significant additions to the squad, but don't give me all this 'I won't bring in anyone who isn't better than what we've got'. We don't have a single fit striker on our books [apart from Healey], so anyone, even a league 1 or championship striker is worth a punt.

I just hope the club hasn't bought into the 'bounce back' concept. It won't happen with this squad. We need to hang on to our Premier League status, and that means going out there and bringing in 2/3 new faces at least..

[The Lone Gunman]

Warnock's comments yesterday were embarrassing. It was almost exactly the same story from him with Grujic and Abraham. He doesn't do himself any favours with this crap, that's for sure, but maybe it underlines why he's struggled at the top level throughout his career. When you consider signings like Tomlin, Madine and Reid, it seems he's out of his depth in the modern transfer market. He works wonders with some of the players he brings in, but they're almost always free transfers or cheap buys. Spending money seems a weakness, while sorting out decent loan deals seems almost beyond him. I think he got really lucky with both Arter and Camarasa. When you consider how late they arrived, it suggests he was more than a little fortune to secure their services.

[goats]

Warnock's comments yesterday were embarrassing. It was almost exactly the same story from him with Grujic and Abraham. He doesn't do himself any favours with this crap, that's for sure, but maybe it underlines why he's struggled at the top level throughout his career. When you consider signings like Tomlin, Madine and Reid, it seems he's out of his depth in the modern transfer market. He works wonders with some of the players he brings in, but they're almost always free transfers or cheap buys. Spending money seems a weakness, while sorting out decent loan deals seems almost beyond him. I think he got really lucky with both Arter and Camarasa. When you consider how late they arrived, it suggests he was more than a little fortune to secure their services.

Some managers just work better with small budgets, I think frank burrows was the same? Remember swinkendorf?

[Father Dougal]

Some managers just work better with small budgets, I think frank burrows was the same? Remember swinkendorf?

That huge signing for 100k? But yes that was big money way back in the year 2000!

[Lawnmower]

yesterday's result aside, I'm at a loss to fully understand why we are so inept in our transfer dealings. Agreed we have a lower wage structure and Warnock's playing style isn't to everyone's taste, but we are a Premier league club outside the bottom 3 with half a season gone.

We make excuse upon excuse why players don't join us, yet Huddersfield who are in deep, deep trouble, are able to get a Liverpool England under 23 full back and Jason Puncheon from Palace already. And I can't see that living in Huddersfield would be any more attractive than Cardiff.

One thing's for certain - Burnley, Fulham, Southampton, all look like they're on the up even before any new signings. We haven't got a chance without significant additions to the squad, but don't give me all this 'I won't bring in anyone who isn't better than what we've got'. We don't have a single fit striker on our books [apart from Healey], so anyone, even a league 1 or championship striker is worth a punt.

I just hope the club hasn't bought into the 'bounce back' concept. It won't happen with this squad. We need to hang on to our Premier League status, and that means going out there and bringing in 2/3 new faces at least..

Your post may have a point, but I don’t see Puncheon as a good example. This board would have been in meltdown if we’d brought him in.
Saying that, watch him score the winner next Sat 😕

I think everyone is aware we need strengthening. Including the decision makers at the club

Bringing in a L1 striker who’s clearly not good enough won’t help either. We’ve tried that enough times in the past.

[Father Dougal]

Your post may have a point, but I don’t see Puncheon as a good example. This board would have been in meltdown if we’d brought him in.
Saying that, watch him score the winner next Sat 😕

I think everyone is aware we need strengthening. Including the decision makers at the club

Bringing in a L1 striker who’s clearly not good enough won’t help either. We’ve tried that enough times in the past.

How’s eoin Doyle doing these days?

[islandblue]

How’s eoin Doyle doing these days?

League 1 Bradford these days

[Father Dougal]

League 1 Bradford these days

He had about 20 league 1 goals before Christmas didn’t he?

[Bald Barry Bastad]

Totally agree with Monkfish. Sick and tired of hearing excuses from Warnock. I don't care. Just go out and sign some bloody players and stop moaning. Yes life can be hard. So what. Just get on with it.

[valley boy]

Totally agree with Monkfish. Sick and tired of hearing excuses from Warnock. I don't care. Just go out and sign some bloody players and stop moaning. Yes life can be hard. So what. Just get on with it.

They say football supporters are fickle but really some of you take the biscuit.Have you forgotten the job Warnock has done.He came here when we were on our arse on and off the field.He brought us back together and won us promotion to the premier where our results have defied the critics etc.So what he is having trouble signing players.What have other clubs done that is so wonderful.
The players he has brought here such as Bamba, Hoilett,Etheridge Camarasa Arter etc have made a huge impact.
He got Zohore playing when nobodyelse could and will do again.
Have a little bit of respect and faith. Or are you closet Liverpool and Spurs fans.
Keep having a go Neil dont bow down to them.

[Taunton Blue Genie]

It's impossible to imagine how hit and miss it must be with players and their agents horsetrading to get the best wages and conditions and playing clubs off against each other. It's always easy to criticise without knowing the details

[binman]

£25m buys you an Iheanacho

(I'd rather we didn't waste our money)

[NottinghamBlue]

It's impossible to imagine how hit and miss it must be with players and their agents horsetrading to get the best wages and conditions and playing clubs off against each other. It's always easy to criticise without knowing the details

Yes, I agree.

[goats]

They say football supporters are fickle but really some of you take the biscuit.Have you forgotten the job Warnock has done.He came here when we were on our arse on and off the field.He brought us back together and won us promotion to the premier where our results have defied the critics etc.So what he is having trouble signing players.What have other clubs done that is so wonderful.
The players he has brought here such as Bamba, Hoilett,Etheridge Camarasa Arter etc have made a huge impact.
He got Zohore playing when nobodyelse could and will do again.
Have a little bit of respect and faith. Or are you closet Liverpool and Spurs fans.
Keep having a go Neil dont bow down to them.

I agree, he saved us from league 1. Football fans are so fickle is defies belief.

[Father Dougal]

Totally agree with Monkfish. Sick and tired of hearing excuses from Warnock. I don't care. Just go out and sign some bloody players and stop moaning. Yes life can be hard. So what. Just get on with it.

Yes everyone says it was just distraction techniques. Maybe partly that was his intention.

However what he’s actually done is expose to the world how naive we are as a club in our transfer dealings.

While warnock is going around making verbal agreements other clubs are coming in to actually sign them.

[goats]

Yes everyone says it was just distraction techniques. Maybe partly that was his intention.

However what he’s actually done is expose to the world how naive we are as a club in our transfer dealings.

While warnock is going around making verbal agreements other clubs are coming in to actually sign them.

More like the Bournemouth manager and Liverpool doing over the old guy, I guess old school agreements don’t really cut it in the modern world. I’m glad Neil speaks his mind, the industry has been ruined by cash. Just look at the precious flakes bellers has to deal with? Giving Bristol City a hard time is now bullying ffs....

[The Lone Gunman]

More like the Bournemouth manager and Liverpool doing over the old guy, I guess old school agreements don’t really cut it in the modern world.

The transfer window opened on 1st January. Clyne signed for Bournemouth on 4th January. I wonder why the old guy didn't sign Clyne on 1st, 2nd or 3rd January if he genuinely did have an 'old-school' agreement with Liverpool? Seems a bit strange to me.

[DubaiDai]

Can understand the frustration. Not long ago (I think 7-8 weeks) Warnock stated the both him and his staff were actively attending matches and speaking to clubs so we could get ahead of the January wait.
I have always suspected that excuses would come tumbling out with us finally making an insignificant signing around the third week of the month.
I am beginning to think all the banter, links and now excuses are a PR exercise to keep the fans thinking we are continually being thwarted by the football world.

[Bald Barry Bastad]

More like the Bournemouth manager and Liverpool doing over the old guy, I guess old school agreements don’t really cut it in the modern world. I’m glad Neil speaks his mind, the industry has been ruined by cash. Just look at the precious flakes bellers has to deal with? Giving Bristol City a hard time is now bullying ffs....

That's all very good but I couldn't give a crap about any of it. We're desperate for players. I thought we would have had a couple ready for Jan 1st like other clubs. And I couldn't give a **** about any reasons why it hasn't happened so far. We had that last summer. Just get on with it!

[Father Dougal]

More like the Bournemouth manager and Liverpool doing over the old guy, I guess old school agreements don’t really cut it in the modern world. I’m glad Neil speaks his mind, the industry has been ruined by cash. Just look at the precious flakes bellers has to deal with? Giving Bristol City a hard time is now bullying ffs....

Maybe what Liverpool did is morally right, maybe it’s not. As we can see here though we don’t really care.

I am sure Liverpool and bournmouth would have their own interpretations of what actually happened and the precise sequence of events anyway.

It’s immaterial though. I understand Neil wanted to distract from yesterday’s performance but not sure this was the way to do it.

[lisvaneblue]

Maybe what Liverpool did is morally right, maybe it’s not. As we can see here though we don’t really care.

I am sure Liverpool and bournmouth would have their own interpretations of what actually happened and the precise sequence of events anyway.

It’s immaterial though. I understand Neil wanted to distract from yesterday’s performance but not sure this was the way to do it.

If Neil Warnock identifies a player and gets verbal agreement, then surely it is down to Ken Choo and Mehmet Dalman to get the paperwork sorted asap and the deal done.

I seem to remember comments from NW in the past that we are too slow in this area.

[Hilts]

Could be worse could have signed Jason Puncheon.

Maybe we'll get lucky with fortunate signings like Camarasa and Arter.😂

[Pedro de la Rosa]

Unless Tan dips his hand in his pocket, there is no way we can compete financially. Bournemouth eg have spend 100s of millions since they got promoted etc, we've spent peanuts. The club is a Championship set up in every sense, including recruitment.

[goats]

Unless Tan dips his hand in his pocket, there is no way we can compete financially. Bournemouth eg have spend 100s of millions since they got promoted etc, we've spent peanuts. The club is a Championship set up in every sense, including recruitment.

Well you reap what you sew I guess in the money league. If Tan was gung ho for the premier league I’m sure he’d blow millions like Bournemouth etc...do the Leicester’s and Watford’s spend loads too? Do we need too? We definitely need a striker, it cost us last time and it will again by the looks....

[A Quiet Monkfish]

Unless Tan dips his hand in his pocket, there is no way we can compete financially. Bournemouth eg have spend 100s of millions since they got promoted etc, we've spent peanuts. The club is a Championship set up in every sense, including recruitment.

Tend to agree..