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  1. #1

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wright View Post
    What do you think the clubs policy will be going forward? I mean, I’m sure they will not let players (their assets as well as human beings) do this type of thing in future. They will either have it written in their contact that the club arranges transport or that the player has to give notice of their travel arrangements prior to travelling which would have to be ok’d by the club.

    I realise there are limits to tge restrictions you can put upon an adult but Feck me , football clubs tell their players what to eat and how nuch they can drink and when. The club can and will wash their hands of this but that doesn’t mean they couldn’t have done things better. They could have done a lot more from where I’m sitting. It’s inept from his agents point of but also from the clubs in my opinion. I realise we are talking different levels but can you see Man City, Chelsea or Man U letting their record striker get on a feckin decades old microlite to travel accross the english channel at night in winter. It’s farcical.
    I can't answer the question you pose as I do not know enough about the arrangements that exist between players, agents and the club. However, when a former Premier League Chairman explains in a radio interview that it is usual for agents to arrange transport I have no reason to disbelieve him and I do not think it is the club's responsibility to second guess everything an agent does. I agree this whole episode reveals many flaws in the arrangements made but I can't see how anyone can blame the club for a consenting player to be transported in a plane owned and organised by an agent who must be used to arranging transport for players on a routine basis. In this particular case where the pilot's experience is being called into question I do not think it would be practicable for any club to check whether a pilot had the relevant experience and qualifications to fly one of their players for example.

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    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    It seems strange that, whilst the club were happy to offer the services of the private jet for the discussion on terms and the medical, once he had signed the travel offer seemed to be a Nantes - Paris - London - Cardiff trip on a scheduled airline, train and taxi. One would hope that the jet was perhaps being used for other club business at that time, possibly other transfer targets

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    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bloop View Post
    All I can think is that Sala wanted a full day in Nantes to say his farewells and no commercial flight times would have allowed him to do that and still get to Cardiff in time for training on Tuesday.
    The only way for him to do this would be a private flight in the evening.
    He flew back Saturday he had 2 days to say his goodbyes.

    The club couldn’t keep laying on a private jet flying him back and forth to France every time he wanted to go back.

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    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    He flew back Saturday he had 2 days to say his goodbyes.

    The club couldn’t keep laying on a private jet flying him back and forth to France every time he wanted to go back.
    I agree

  5. #5

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Don't know how true and if I'm just clinging onto hope but according to some Twitter reports, flares have been spotted from Burhou Island. Surely this would have been checked. I also understand that there are sick ****s out there that would make up fake reports.

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    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Shhh View Post
    Don't know how true and if I'm just clinging onto hope but according to some Twitter reports, flares have been spotted from Burhou Island. Surely this would have been checked. I also understand that there are sick ****s out there that would make up fake reports.
    Apparently pics were taken of flares in that direction Tuesday morning. The island has been searched by air but very hard to get anyone on the island in current conditions.

  7. #7

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Take a look at these search results: https://twitter.com/search?q=flares%20sala&s=09

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    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Whats all this flares coming from Burhou island stuff on twitter about?

    Is that new?

  9. #9

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Quote Originally Posted by Father Dougal View Post
    Whats all this flares coming from Burhou island stuff on twitter about?

    Is that new?
    Stuff on google from two days ago about Burhou and flares.

  10. #10

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Quote Originally Posted by Father Dougal View Post
    Whats all this flares coming from Burhou island stuff on twitter about?

    Is that new?
    If flares went up yesterday as the rumors on Twitter are suggesting, surely they would have been investigated by now.

    Also if they got there with flares, presumably they would have been in a raft, how come they didn't set them off sooner?

    I'd bet this is some sick oddball making crap up.

  11. #11

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    https://guernseypress.com/news/2019/...rney-lifeboat/

    RNLI crew investigated reports of flares going up behind Burhou during Monday night’s gruelling five-hour search for the missing plane.

  12. #12

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    This flicker of hope is almost unbearable especially as we'll have to wait until tomorrow to see if there is any truth in it.

  13. #13

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Quote Originally Posted by Welshcake. View Post
    This flicker of hope is almost unbearable especially as we'll have to wait until tomorrow to see if there is any truth in it.
    There isn't.

  14. #14

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    My friend mentioned it Tuesday morning as the news broke about flares being sighted but having not seen much in the way of reports I thought it was just made up.
    This coming to light again is reigniting the hope and it’s bloody unbearable.

  15. #15

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Quote Originally Posted by The Bob Banker Spanker View Post
    My friend mentioned it Tuesday morning as the news broke about flares being sighted but having not seen much in the way of reports I thought it was just made up.
    This coming to light again is reigniting the hope and it’s bloody unbearable.
    Sadly I think the most likely explanation if those are genuinely pictures over Alderney area is that they are trails from the rescue planes carrying out the search.

  16. #16

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Here are the original Burhou pics

    https://twitter.com/DJLewE1/status/1087660241825742848

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  18. #18

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Bl00dy hell!! So the chatter on Twitter last night about flares coming from the area around Burhou seems valid?
    How have Guernsey police only just got wind of this.

    I don't know, all speculation I guess and a lot of theories and information being put to the test.
    All said and done but if the rescue services are still out searching then there is always hope and we have to have faith.

  19. #19

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monster munch View Post
    Bl00dy hell!! So the chatter on Twitter last night about flares coming from the area around Burhou seems valid?
    How have Guernsey police only just got wind of this.

    I don't know, all speculation I guess and a lot of theories and information being put to the test.
    All said and done but if the rescue services are still out searching then there is always hope and we have to have faith.
    You are moaning about something that you know absolutely nothing about.

  20. #20

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    You are moaning about something that you know absolutely nothing about.
    Oh really. You have no idea what I know so don't come back at me with remarks like that and feel your better to insult a fellow fan.

    We are all desperate for news and optimistic with any snippets of information and like I said a lot of speculation around.

    Very coincidental how all this chat about the flares and now the rescue services are looking at the said area.

  21. #21

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monster munch View Post
    Oh really. You have no idea what I know so don't come back at me with remarks like that and feel your better to insult a fellow fan.

    We are all desperate for news and optimistic with any snippets of information and like I said a lot of speculation around.

    Very coincidental how all this chat about the flares and now the rescue services are looking at the said area.
    There are a number of areas they are searching. There was no twitter fuss about the others. The only suggestion of a flare are those photos from 48 hours ago and that area has already been searched since then.

    It is just a team doing a very difficult job and being good enough to update the world as to how they are doing it. They are the ones with the relevant expertise, not people on twitter (well-meaning as they may be).

  22. #22

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monster munch View Post
    Oh really. You have no idea what I know so don't come back at me with remarks like that and feel your better to insult a fellow fan.

    We are all desperate for news and optimistic with any snippets of information and like I said a lot of speculation around.

    Very coincidental how all this chat about the flares and now the rescue services are looking at the said area.
    Flares were reported on the first morning, investigated and reported to be not significant. You were commenting about the role of the police and indicating that they might not be doing their jobs properly. What you were doing is speculating, which is totally counter productive in the current circumstances. Todays news states they are now searching the coastal areas around all of the local islands, presumably for debris. They have already done sea searches in the area. They are not just searching one area because of the flares. What they are doing is the logical next step in the search process i.e. recovery, not rescue, as they said yesterday.

  23. #23

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Quote Originally Posted by Monster munch View Post
    Bl00dy hell!! So the chatter on Twitter last night about flares coming from the area around Burhou seems valid?
    How have Guernsey police only just got wind of this.

    I don't know, all speculation I guess and a lot of theories and information being put to the test.
    All said and done but if the rescue services are still out searching then there is always hope and we have to have faith.
    They said they searched the area on Monday night after reports of flares.

  24. #24

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    Hopefully they will find something today as it seems as though this could be the last day of searching. Assume they are just checking coastal for signs of debris.
    His family must be going through hell

  25. #25

    Re: Light aircraft gone down from Nantes to Cardiff near Guernsey last night?

    The bad side of twitter when these rumours spread about this island. The photo has been written off by anyone reliable as flares, more informed people have stated there's no way they'd have made it to that island but you have several hundreds tweeting Guernsey Police telling them to get on the island. They're doing an amazing job in tragic circumstances, these rumours spreading like wildfire don't help anyone, certainly not the Guernsey police.

    I'd imagine if nothing is spotted today then that might be that for the search. Horrible. My thoughts are with his family and friends, as well as the pilot's.

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