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    Is NW okay ??

    Neil's is very quiet, hope he's okay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Neil's is very quiet, hope he's okay.
    BBC report has Ken Choo saying he is quite distressed and went home early to his family today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulsurfer3 View Post
    BBC report has Ken Choo saying he is quite distressed and went home early to his family today.
    I'm not suprised for all his rants I think he has a big heart this will be hurting the man , in my humble opinion, as you get older, stuff like this somehow effects you ,than in your younger years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    I'm not suprised for all his rants I think he has a big heart this will be hurting the man , in my humble opinion, as you get older, stuff like this somehow effects you ,than in your younger years.
    It certainly does. As the years go by they have a tendency to whittle away at your strength and resolve.

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    I think this will be the end of NW's career. After his previous family illnesses with Mrs W, and now this, it's enough to turn anyone's head. He's 70, doesn't need to work financially so I wouldn't be surprised to see him pack it all in come the end of the season, if not sooner.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Monk View Post
    I think this will be the end of NW's career. After his previous family illnesses with Mrs W, and now this, it's enough to turn anyone's head. He's 70, doesn't need to work financially so I wouldn't be surprised to see him pack it all in come the end of the season, if not sooner.
    I can't a imagine him wanting to do another transfer window. But the guy loves the game so you never know.

    I'd love for when he does retire from management to be offered a role at the club, think we have lacked proper football people behind the scenes at times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trigger View Post
    I can't a imagine him wanting to do another transfer window. But the guy loves the game so you never know.

    I'd love for when he does retire from management to be offered a role at the club, think we have lacked proper football people behind the scenes at times.
    Yes his knowledge and experience is enormous , and something we lack .

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    What awful circumstances for NW. As if his job wasn’t tough enough. Life is cruel.

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    NW would’ve seen everything football has had to throw at him but not this.
    If he’s gone to seek solace from his family then that’s good.
    He will have a stiff upper lip with the players I imagine and not give anything away but he wears his heart on his sleeve and I imagine he’s absolutely devastated to see a young man like Sala lost.

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    Warnock is a tough cookie but this is enough to break anyone, I’m sure he’ll carry on to the end of the season but think he might just say enough is enough and go home and nobody could ever judge him

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    Wouldn't it wonderful if we delivered a result on Tuesday in Sala's name .

    I can only speak for myself but I'd run myself into the ground on the night in his memory .

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    I had already commented a few weeks ago on another thread that I wondered if this would be his last season , unfortunately this week’s events have strengthened that opinion.
    If we stay up after all this it will be his greatest achievement !

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    If you don’t like it you know where the ignore button is.

    He must have met him twice tops
    Ffs. Why would he retire?

    I’m sorry but this whole who’s hurting the most nonsense is really nauseating.
    Neil Warnock was involved in the whole sequence of events leading up to the tragedy, the ‘what ifs’ & ‘buts’ must be very tormenting. I have a mate who was involved in a lorry accident over 20 years ago, he was a passenger but should have been behind the wheel, the sequence of events on that fateful day led to his mate offering to drive, the driver died, my mate survived. It torments him to this day. We can’t change fate but by the same token we can’t change the notion that we could have. Have some compassion man, Neil Warnock must be torn to shreds as everyone involved in the lead up must be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Neil Warnock was involved in the whole sequence of events leading up to the tragedy, the ‘what ifs’ & ‘buts’ must be very tormenting. I have a mate who was involved in a lorry accident over 20 years ago, he was a passenger but should have been behind the wheel, the sequence of events on that fateful day led to his mate offering to drive, the driver died, my mate survived. It torments him to this day. We can’t change fate but by the same token we can’t change the notion that we could have. Have some compassion man, Neil Warnock must be torn to shreds as everyone involved in the lead up must be.
    No he wasn’t. He wasn’t involved in the arranging of the plane. If he had been then understandable. He has nothing to feel guilty about.

    Sala wanted to go back to France and he arranged it all with nothing to do with the NW or the club.

    Sadly, had he gone with the clubs offer of catching a commercial flight then he would still be here today and tragedy avoided.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    No he wasn’t. He wasn’t involved in the arranging of the plane. If he had been then understandable. He has nothing to feel guilty about.

    Sala wanted to go back to France and he arranged it all with nothing to do with the NW or the club.
    I have some sympathy with your views on the overall reaction to the Emiliano Sala story. Tragic although it is, some of the stuff I've read on this and other message boards this week has been laughable, cringeworthy and downright embarrassing. However, I think you've got this one wrong.

    Neil Warnock has been showing the strain in recent weeks. He said during one of his press conferences that he believed this would probably be his last January transfer window and the Sala situation will only have strengthened that belief. I have it on good authority (my partner, who was on the same flight) that Warnock was at Cardiff Airport last Friday to meet Sala when he arrived for his medical. I also think I'm right in saying the the manager flew directly to Nantes with Mehmet Dalman a couple of weeks ago to watch Sala in action, and I've got little doubt he was either on the same plane or a very similar one.

    Those things have got to be playing on his mind. Warnock has always been a hands-on type of manager where his players are concerned, so I'm sure this tragedy has hit him very hard. He must be thinking over and over again how he and the club could have done things differently. He'll know far more about the situation than you or I. It'll be a terrible time for him and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he brought forward his retirement, which I'm sure is inevitable in a few months anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I have some sympathy with your views on the overall reaction to the Emiliano Sala story. Tragic although it is, some of the stuff I've read on this and other message boards this week has been laughable, cringeworthy and downright embarrassing. However, I think you've got this one wrong.

    Neil Warnock has been showing the strain in recent weeks. He said during one of his press conferences that he believed this would probably be his last January transfer window and the Sala situation will only have strengthened that belief. I have it on good authority (my partner, who was on the same flight) that Warnock was at Cardiff Airport last Friday to meet Sala when he arrived for his medical. I also think I'm right in saying the the manager flew directly to Nantes with Mehmet Dalman a couple of weeks ago to watch Sala in action, and I've got little doubt he was either on the same plane or a very similar one.

    Those things have got to be playing on his mind. Warnock has always been a hands-on type of manager where his players are concerned, so I'm sure this tragedy has hit him very hard. He must be thinking over and over again how he and the club could have done things differently. He'll know far more about the situation than you or I. It'll be a terrible time for him and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he brought forward his retirement, which I'm sure is inevitable in a few months anyway.
    Warnock must be going through hell.I have already posted that I would not be surprised if he called it a day now and quite frankly I would not blame him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    I have some sympathy with your views on the overall reaction to the Emiliano Sala story. Tragic although it is, some of the stuff I've read on this and other message boards this week has been laughable, cringeworthy and downright embarrassing. However, I think you've got this one wrong.

    Neil Warnock has been showing the strain in recent weeks. He said during one of his press conferences that he believed this would probably be his last January transfer window and the Sala situation will only have strengthened that belief. I have it on good authority (my partner, who was on the same flight) that Warnock was at Cardiff Airport last Friday to meet Sala when he arrived for his medical. I also think I'm right in saying the the manager flew directly to Nantes with Mehmet Dalman a couple of weeks ago to watch Sala in action, and I've got little doubt he was either on the same plane or a very similar one.

    Those things have got to be playing on his mind. Warnock has always been a hands-on type of manager where his players are concerned, so I'm sure this tragedy has hit him very hard. He must be thinking over and over again how he and the club could have done things differently. He'll know far more about the situation than you or I. It'll be a terrible time for him and it wouldn't surprise me at all if he brought forward his retirement, which I'm sure is inevitable in a few months anyway.
    Fair enough. When you put it like that then I understand where Warnock might be coming from.

    I just hope NW doesn’t feel personally guilty because all he is guilty of is trying to bring him to CCFC to improve a football team.

    I’m probably a little cold to it all because I just can’t get my head around the over reaction by some on here, and Twitter, who are behaving like they’ve lost a child, sibling or parent when in reality it’s a stranger who they hadn’t even heard of a month ago.

    If that makes me a sociopath then so be it

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Fair enough. When you put it like that then I understand where Warnock might be coming from.

    I just hope NW doesn’t feel personally guilty because all he is guilty of is trying to bring him to CCFC to improve a football team.

    I’m probably a little cold to it all because I just can’t get my head around the over reaction by some on here, and Twitter, who are behaving like they’ve lost a child, sibling or parent when in reality it’s a stranger who they hadn’t even heard of a month ago.

    If that makes me a sociopath then so be it
    Unfortunately, when there has been a traumatic death, many of the people in the vicinity, involved in arrangements or closely connected to the victim suffer from a guilt complex. Even Doctors, nurses, paramedics, police officers, firefighters, armed service personnel suffer this after dealing with trauma. It's a natural human instinct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post

    If that makes me a sociopath then so be it
    Not a sociopath just cynical.

    What happened came as a shock and the ensuing events just increased the sense of loss.

    I didn't cry or anything, but I did feel gutted. Just things like seeing his photo posted with those lads outside the ground. The way it happened. His age.

    "Grief", on which ever level we are talking is not something that can be logically evaluated and rationalised. Going by your summation people would only feel something for family members and close friends. It's equally as strange to grade things like this as it is to go overboard.

    I also feel that the heightened sense of grief might be accentuated due to the focus of the media and the presence of family members. It'd be pretty rough for his family (who are in Cardiff) if we all just said " He's a stranger. No biggie".

    So ye, you are being cynical.

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    Best thing you can all do is let people deal with it in their own way and not judge or try to second guess how someone must be feeling.

    This is a horrible tragedy and individuals all handle it in their own way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splott parker View Post
    Neil Warnock was involved in the whole sequence of events leading up to the tragedy, the ‘what ifs’ & ‘buts’ must be very tormenting. I have a mate who was involved in a lorry accident over 20 years ago, he was a passenger but should have been behind the wheel, the sequence of events on that fateful day led to his mate offering to drive, the driver died, my mate survived. It torments him to this day. We can’t change fate but by the same token we can’t change the notion that we could have. Have some compassion man, Neil Warnock must be torn to shreds as everyone involved in the lead up must be.
    Top post SP 😉👍

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    Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle View Post
    I'm with tuerto on this.
    And I Tend to side with Mr Hartley about all the faux angst and wringing of hands too. It can be seriously OTT at trmes.
    No one had ever met him or knew anything aboutr him in reality. |He could have been J Saville before he was exposed for all they knew. When I pointed out that if it had been an 86 years old man who a poster had known all his life no one would have cared a jot. I was deemed to be offensive but it is still true today as it was then

    Don't misunderstand me, I am shaken and stunned by these events but if that plane had been flying my next door neighbour home no one would care and someone would be applying for his job in the morning.

    Enough is enough.
    I’m sure if your next door neighbour had signed to play for us and was tragically killed on his way to his first training session with us, it would have had the same coveridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    In this thread, Hartley has had his Mental Health, parenting, Character and Happiness questioned, as well as someone referring to him as an alcoholic. He hasn't been abusive at all. For the record, i don't agree with his thoughts on Warnock, although that doesn't mean that i feel the need to personally abuse him-Bringing another posters kids into an argument is a disgrace-It's certainly quite at odds with the empathy and concern that has been on display over the last few days.
    Its all good mate, not offended, I know I’m no angel but suggesting I am violent towards my children is probably a few levels lower than even I would stoop to get a nibble

    That particular poster has form in trying to get extremely personal to get a bite out of me, yet I’m the biggest WUM on the board because I have strong views that go against the grain.🤨

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    Quote Originally Posted by J R Hartley View Post
    Its all good mate, not offended, that particular poster has form in trying to get extremely personal to get a bite out of me, yet I’m biggest WUM on the board because I have strong views that go against the grain.
    I know what you're like, although i can't ever recall you getting personally abusive with other posters. Talking about another persons kids is way off the mark. I like your football stuff, even if i don't agree, it's thought out and provokes debate.

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