Surely if the plane transports people the company must have some type of Public Liability Insurance !!!!Originally Posted by Wales-Bales
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Surely if the plane transports people the company must have some type of Public Liability Insurance !!!!
The liability will be to the estate of the deceased, not his employer.
No i'm talking about the Company that OWNS and operates the plane should have Public liability insurance
There are loads of contradictory reports about the Nantes 'pay up' demands (supposedly in letters to CCFC on Friday and yesterday or today).
They are either demanding the initial £5m+ instalment, or else the whole £15m - some of which will go to Bordeaux.
Some papers are continuing to claim that CCFC have a liability for wages (to someone) and other costs for the full contract period.
Different news sources are coming up with different claims about the club's insurance cover - and speculating about a shortfall.
Wales Online (and its stablemate The Mirror) have tried to detail the reasons why CCFC held back on the first instalment:
- uncertainty about the player registration situation at the time of the crash
- uncertainty about the relationship between Nantes and the McKays (who arranged the flight) and potential claims and counterclaims with Mark McKay acting for the French club in the transfer and maybe retaining a relationship with them after
- uncertainty about the potential liability of other parties (the McKays and David Henderson - and maybe other agents) and whether immediate payment to Nantes would prejudice future legal action.
It is likely to be a drawn out and acrimonious process. The club has stated clearly that they will honour the contract with Nantes but I can see that they will want to clarify the legal and financial position first and not just pay up.
But the timing of the payment demand is very poor - right in the middle of a traumatic recovery operation whilst Sala's family are reportedly staying in Nantes (supported by Emiliano's agent Meissa N'Diaye). Football is a business and the Nantes president was desperate to cash in on Sala - but they could have waited another week or two. Bordeaux have made clear they are not pressing for their share of the fee yet given the circumstances.
On the contrary the timing of Cardiff not paying the initial £5m+ instalment is very poor and not the other way around if indeed that is the case.
It doesn’t matter if that’s what your legal team say to do
Quite, but it does not detract from the fact that it would be seen as morally very poor by a lot of people.
Its more of a reflection on Cardiff than Nantes if Cardiff did not pay up as agreed and Nantes had to ask where their money is.
The initial agreement does not take into account the tragic circumstances which happened shortly afterwards, and when it comes to legal matters, neither emotions or morals are taken into account.
As the transfer was ‘subject to international clearance’ was it legally complete at the time of the crash? From the perspective of which club could potentially make an insurance claim.
It’s business though, and football is that big time. If the lawyers say don’t pay yet, not even a body found then that’s what you do.
Yes you would think/hope that the City are playing straight down the middle as much as can be expected here and acting on strong legal advice. It’s not the situation for stubbornness and burying heads in the sand, the reputation of the club commands that everything is above board and accountable legally.
Was it part of a corporate business transaction, the flight I mean? From what we’ve read, whether it’s all straight up, is that it’s more or less someone giving somebody else a lift. I’ve read that our club wanted Sala on a scheduled flight, then the McKay lot stepped in with an offer of a free ‘lift’ which Sala accepted. Going to be loads of ‘grey’ areas for insurance companies to um & ah by the looks but I’d have thought if, say, you accepted a free lift of someone in a car and something happened, as long as they were insured you’d be covered up to a certain amount. As I say I reckon it’s going to be a long runner and will it be a case of the winners being the ones with the best/most expensive legal team? Wish I was watching from afar rather than the City being involved.
As far as I know, Sala was travelling as a private individual on a privately owned aircraft, and any information regarding who paid for the cost of the flight has not been revealed. There is also some confusion about who the true owners of the aircraft are.
They say it was free, but I really doubt the pilot wasn’t going to get paid for it, why would he bother else?
Because he needed the flying hours to keep his pilot licence. This is by no means unusual as a minimum number of hours need to be flown every year and it can be very expensive when you don't own your own 'plane (or have easy access to one).
No one said it was free. It was said that Sala was told that he didn't have to pay for it, i.e. it was free for him. But someone must have paid for it at some point.
I'll be interested when the owners of the aircraft make their insurance claim for the loss of their aircraft, and the bag of worms that will reveal.
Perhaps it MAY be where the trouble starts.
I am not SURE really.
Your frustration is palpable. I feel it also
I’d be surprised if Nantes were “demanding” anything at this present moment in time.
Sensational headline. Good for a 2/3 page discussion on here though.
No one knows the full facts . It’s just guesswork and conjecture at the moment.
Personally I’d rather they kept it out of the public eye.
100%. I’m never going to put anyone on ignore as there’s normally so much good stuff on here - even from posters who I clash opinions with - but there’s been some stuff on here that I’ve not enjoyed reading about the whole tragic episode. I’ll just be glad when the family have closure - I realise people want to post about it but it just feels so insensitive to me.
Wild guess, but probably via an agent who’s slavering over his cut
Surely only some lowlife pondlife would put this out there, so very likely an agent....
Today’s Telegraph Sport has a very good article about the whole issue by Oliver Brown
To quote two passages.......
‘ Neil Warnock, who has been an eloquent unifying voice for Cardiff through a profoundly difficult period, argues that the outpouring over Sala presents the sport at its best. He has pointedly thanked Nantes for their compassionate response in the immediate aftermath. But this is the same Nantes who, as a body bag is lifted from the waters, have deemed it an appropriate moment to knock on Cardiff,s door’
‘ The football family comes together at times like these says the head of Cardiff,s supporters trust. It is a naive view. For behind the prayers and the vigils,the scarfs and the No9 shirts, lies a webof boundless cynicism. For all the talk of class and respect, football can, as Nantes latest actions prove,be a quite startlingly classless enterprise’
As I am referred to in the article , I think it sensible to clarify what I said.
Firstly , I have never given an interview to the Telegraph , so they must have lifted an edited version from some other media coverage.
Secondly , in all the interviews I have given , I have made it quite clear that reference to the "football family" was primarily to football fans.
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