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I don’t see why people are up in arms about his outburst
“What that special place in hell looks like for those who promoted Brexit, without even a sketch of a plan how to carry it out safely”
What’s wrong with that? At the moment in a month we will be cut out of any of the eu intelligence and tracking of criminals and terrorists unless we negotiate a deal, is that the sort of safety people want?
Are you thinking that the UK would not be able to monitor its own deplorables, or will not be able to monitor any deplorables over the water? I would guess that MI5/MI6 are some of the most revered intelligence experts in the world, and that capability of GCHQ is second to none, they and it were good enough to monitor the other mad Donald.
It's about intelligence sharing. The intelligence won't be shared with us. Of course, whilst not wanting to denegrate the security services, they failed to monitor the purpetrators of the Westminster attack, the London Bridge attack and the 7/7 bombings. Intelligence gathering and minitoring of suspects requires a collaborative approach, and to cut off one of the best supplies of intelliegnce is not helpfull.
The American secret services unfortunately must have failed on the 911 attacks and that was about 3,000 dead and 6,000 injured.
Certain things you can share but other things perhaps not, the British and Pearl Harbor, did the British win the war because it happened or was it a conspiracy theory that we knew ?, I don't do conspiracy theories but I would not be in the slightest bit surprised if we did know, we just like other countries have to look out for ourselves, from the outside it seems like we trust the Americans far too much, unless we are good at playing the game and let them and everyone else think that, lol.
If its a dick waving contest, the brigade across the channel has failed in, France, Belgium, Germany, as a starter for 10, I,m not sure who wants to cut the collaborative approach, is it a policy of the UK to cut collaboration post Brexit ?. Totally agree that a collaborative approach if abandoned is not a good thing.
What does the second link have anything to do with the 1st?
Tusk is right, irrespective of whether you voted in or out you should be pissed off that the government didn't have a plan to deal with the outcome. It was completely irresponsible and unforgivable.
Igovener, could you explain to me why you’re desperate to leave the EU? And why those 2 links you posted have pissed you off? Please
The OP is the exact sort of person the media can whip into a frenzy with their propaganda. And the archetypal brexitier.
Tusk is unelected. If you want to get rid of him you can't through the ballot box as in a normal democracy. Fundamentally the EU is undemocratic in the sense that no voters in any single country can have any say in the EU's plans, policies or unelected people like Tusk. All Tusk wants to do is keep his comfortable and cosy club intact and is affronted by the audacity of the UK voting to leave. When Tusk meets May he will be all sweetness and light but as soon as she is out of earshot disrespect her - and accordingly the UK. He is impolite at best.
An y chance this thread could be moved to the politics forum?
Donald Tusk is President of the European Council and was elected to that post by the European Council who consist of the Leaders of all of the member states, who were elected by the general population of each country.
Jean Claude Juncker is the President of the European Commission and was elected by the MEPs, who were elected by the general population of each country.
So tell me again how these people are unelected?
You tell me how members of the UK public or indeed any member of the EU voting public can vote him out. If we don't like Theresa may we can vote her out at a General Election; we can't do that with Tusk or any EU Commissioner. That civil service post by another poster is nonsense as civil servants don't make decisions; they simply advise Ministers.
Yes, nice to see someone giving a shit about the people of this country, ironic that it comes from someone not born here.
Someone who cares more than the traitorous ERG lot more interested in creating a low tax low regualation haven for their unscrupulous right wing mates.
These right wing Tories are such snowflakes. The compare the EU to Nazis or Stalinists or as the enemy and yet when they get a bit back they get all uppity. Tusk is right so **** them.