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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    Are you thinking that the UK would not be able to monitor its own deplorables, or will not be able to monitor any deplorables over the water? I would guess that MI5/MI6 are some of the most revered intelligence experts in the world, and that capability of GCHQ is second to none, they and it were good enough to monitor the other mad Donald.
    I think you don’t understand it at all tbh pal, we rely on that data massively and won’t be able to access it.

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Croesy Blue View Post
    I think you don’t understand it at all tbh pal, we rely on that data massively and won’t be able to access it.

    OK Chum.

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nelsonca61 View Post
    OK Chum.
    How do the USA access this information? We are on the system as them. Are the EU going to stop cooperating with the 5i's? It sounds bizarre that they would do that.

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    Typical remainers spouting info that is not true, lets carry on letting criminals and terrorists into this country, and tell everyone that it is going to be a disaster when we come out, we voted by a majority to come out, all you remainers get over it, bunch of sore losers who are throwing their toys out of their prams!

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Igovernor View Post
    Typical remainers spouting info that is not true, lets carry on letting criminals and terrorists into this country, and tell everyone that it is going to be a disaster when we come out, we voted by a majority to come out, all you remainers get over it, bunch of sore losers who are throwing their toys out of their prams!
    You ask the question, and then don't want to listen to the answers?

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    How do the USA access this information? We are on the system as them. Are the EU going to stop cooperating with the 5i's? It sounds bizarre that they would do that.
    You'll have to ask Crossy, he's got his finger on the pulse with this one although i not sure considered F eyes with his analysis, I thought that the UK was one of the net contributors to intelligence gathering, I was obviously mistaken. Interpol/Europol is where its at now.
    Donald #2 does sound a bit bizarre, if I had been on mars for the past two years and this was the 1st bit of news on returning home I'd swear he's a brexiteer, he's done more for the leave campaign in one sentence than the rest of them put together over two years, I was hedging for a 2nd vote last night but thinking it would go the same way, after his outburst today I think it would be an increased majority. More importantly when is the porn video of AOC being released

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    How do the USA access this information? We are on the system as them. Are the EU going to stop cooperating with the 5i's? It sounds bizarre that they would do that.
    We would be ill advised to give them Yanks all our information.

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    We would be ill advised to give them Yanks all our information.
    I think they might already have it.

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    We would be ill advised to give them Yanks all our information.
    US elections suggested that the UK along with their fives eyes partners are sub servient to the alphabet agencies of the US.
    Head of GCHQ stepped down immediately with the Trump inauguration. If he does declass FISA, I don't think the UK will
    come out smelling of roses. Maybe even her Maj will have a bit of explaining to do.

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Wales-Bales View Post
    How do the USA access this information? We are on the system as them. Are the EU going to stop cooperating with the 5i's? It sounds bizarre that they would do that.
    They have an Intelligence Sharing agreement. We don't.

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    Tusk sounds like a man rattled ,when someone reverts to insults or name calling it's usually seen as a sign they are losing the debate ,see lots of this on this board, folk just get nasty when cornered . I'm sure the Brexiteers will respond and Jeremy (gosh why pick on JC he's been very quiet throughout out this deal, keeping himself to himself ,staying away from divisions and discussion on the matter ,bloody European bully boys )

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Tusk sounds like a man rattled ,when someone reverts to insults or name calling it's usually seen as a sign they are losing the debate ,see lots of this on this board, folk just get nasty when cornered . I'm sure the Brexiteers will respond and Jeremy (gosh why pick on JC he's been very quiet throughout out this deal, keeping himself to himself ,staying away from divisions and discussion on the matter ,bloody European bully boys )
    I’d say he’s every right to be irritated with a government that agreed to a withdrawal agreement then decided to seek alternative arrangements

    (Whatever the hell that means)

    As for the Brexiters responding it was the usual Ill inforned, resorting to cliches and lots of coverage of their faux outrage.

    They still haven’t come up with a plan either.

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Igovernor View Post
    Typical remainers spouting info that is not true, lets carry on letting criminals and terrorists into this country, and tell everyone that it is going to be a disaster when we come out, we voted by a majority to come out, all you remainers get over it, bunch of sore losers who are throwing their toys out of their prams!
    Or just sensible people who don’t want to see the economy tank because of a load of bullshit spouted on the side of a red bus.

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Whatever side of the debate you are on it is fair to say that the referendum did not clearly state the nature of any version of Brexit was to be voted on and, if anything less than a hard Brexit could be agreed upon, as to whether any version would have been acceptable to the EU. Not only are the proponents of Brexit split in what they want but also as to whether what they want is attainable. As a result we are indeed in an unholy mess at the moment.

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    The English have their Queen, the House of Lords and their State religion - none of them are elected are they ?
    And white van man

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    And white van man
    Long standing myth, its any van man.

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    I am an anti-royalist, atheist who doesn't support unelected politicians - but do I detect a "Welsh = good, English = bad" in your recent posts?
    Its bit of kilter from the anti Israel, jewish American,Tory, middle ingerlund posts , you see from the usual suspects. 😃

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by life on mars View Post
    Its bit of kilter from the anti Israel, jewish American,Tory, middle ingerlund posts , you see from the usual suspects. ��
    You seem to have a habit of replying to my posts and referring to the predilections, prejudices and utterings of other posters. Not that I mind, of course

    May you have a thousand offspring.

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    Packing cities with more and more people only leads to overcrowded, smog filled slums, but that seems to be what the policies of the major UK parties lead too.
    So the areas hoovering up the wealth of the country are littered with smog-filled slums...

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    So the areas hoovering up the wealth of the country are littered with smog-filled slums...
    You forgot the overcrowding bit, so much so that they are even sleeping in tents on the streets.

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    You forgot the overcrowding bit, so much so that they are even sleeping in tents on the streets.
    I don't know if you're a WUM or whether you truly believe that overcrowding is the reason for homelessness.
    There are many factors in homelessness and overcrowding probably isn't up there.
    How about getting:
    decent quality affordable housing
    Better mental health services
    Better addiction services
    Better support services for ex-military
    Better support services for abused people

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    I never said any different, its shocking the way Labour and the Conservatives treat certain sections of our community.

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by trampie09 View Post
    You forgot the overcrowding bit, so much so that they are even sleeping in tents on the streets.
    You really think people are sleeping rough on the streets because of overcrowding? Just to make sure I understand you, can I check a few details in relation to this -

    People are sleeping rough because of overcrowding.

    Overcrowding means there are no properties available, otherwise people would be living in them.

    Therefore, the next step has to be to say that these people have the financial means to be able to live in properties but cannot because there are none available.

    So people are sleeping rough, despite having the means and jobs to be able to afford to buy/rent a property, but cannot because there are none available.

    So people are sleeping rough, despite having the means and jobs to be able to afford to buy/rent a property a distance away where there are likely to be plenty available, but choose not to in order to save commuting.

    So people are sleeping rough, despite having the means and jobs to be able to afford to buy/rent a property, but choose to sleep in tents and go to work in dirty clothes having not washed etc.

    Whichever way you look at it, your comment is utter nonsense.

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    That outburst was very unfair on Donald Tusk's part, surely endlessly parroting "take back control" and "project fear" constitutes a well thought out plan?

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    Re: So you want to stay in the EU?

    Quote Originally Posted by Taunton Blue Genie View Post
    Whatever side of the debate you are on it is fair to say that the referendum did not clearly state the nature of any version of Brexit was to be voted on and, if anything less than a hard Brexit could be agreed upon, as to whether any version would have been acceptable to the EU. Not only are the proponents of Brexit split in what they want but also as to whether what they want is attainable. As a result we are indeed in an unholy mess at the moment.
    All leave campaigns promised to have deals with the EU. Their manifestos are still online and can be checked. By going no-deal, the country would be going against the wishes of leave voters who voted for the promises they were given in the manifestos of voteleave, leave.eu and voteleavetakecontrol

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