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    Re: Jokanovic

    Quote Originally Posted by Divine Wright View Post
    Out of interest, who would be a more suitable candidate in your eyes? Or who would your ideal manager be?
    If Warnock was to go and we stayed in the Premier League then someone like Giovanni Van Bronckhorst would be good. He has had experience and success (won cup and league) as a manager at Feyenoord over the last four years, his teams play attractive football and he played in the Prem for Arsenal (as well as playing for Barcelona and Rangers) so knows the British game well. He has also given Feyenoord notice that he will be leaving at the end of this season, so will be available. He is a good communicator and speaks very good English.

    If we go down however, he would be unlikely to come and an alternative then would be Bellamy as coach (if available) with a more experienced person above or someone like Sol Bamba if he gives up playing i.e. someone young and ambitious along the lines of Frank Lampard at Derby.

    Hope that answers your question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    If Warnock was to go and we stayed in the Premier League then someone like Giovanni Van Bronckhorst would be good. He has had experience and success (won cup and league) as a manager at Feyenoord over the last four years, his teams play attractive football and he played in the Prem for Arsenal (as well as playing for Barcelona and Rangers) so knows the British game well. ...........................................
    The problem is that we don't have the players to play attractive football. The only player capable of that is Camarasa and he is on loan and won't be with us next season.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vindec View Post
    The problem is that we don't have the players to play attractive football. The only player capable of that is Camarasa and he is on loan and won't be with us next season.
    If we stay up, we will have another £100m+ in the bank next season, Camarasa would most likely stay and we would have more funds to sign more better quality players. I dont agree that we dont have any other players capable of playing 'attractive' football either, whatever that is. Winning football would be a better description. You cant change a whole team and way of playing overnight. Our problem this season is that we came up more quickly than planned and didnt have a solid financial base to build on. If we had spent any more than we did, in the financial position we were in, it would have been suicidal. At least if we do go down, we will have at least £50m surplus from this year plus a guaranteed parachute payment of around £55m next season, to enable us have a good rebuild and another go at promotion.

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    Re: Jokanovic

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    If we stay up, we will have another £100m+ in the bank next season, Camarasa would most likely stay and we would have more funds to sign more better quality players. I dont agree that we dont have any other players capable of playing 'attractive' football either, whatever that is. Winning football would be a better description. You cant change a whole team and way of playing overnight. Our problem this season is that we came up more quickly than planned and didnt have a solid financial base to build on. If we had spent any more than we did, in the financial position we were in, it would have been suicidal. At least if we do go down, we will have at least £50m surplus from this year plus a guaranteed parachute payment of around £55m next season, to enable us have a good rebuild and another go at promotion.
    My concern is more about the long term future of the club as much of a hero Neil is he’s only ever going to be a short term fix and my personal opinion is for him to step away next season now it could be a good idea to have him as a consultant at board room level just to give them that little bit of football knowledge that we desperately need, good shout on van bronckhorst but I think he has his eye on the Barca job

  5. #5

    Re: Jokanovic

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    If we stay up, we will have another £100m+ in the bank next season, Camarasa would most likely stay and we would have more funds to sign more better quality players. I dont agree that we dont have any other players capable of playing 'attractive' football either, whatever that is. Winning football would be a better description. You cant change a whole team and way of playing overnight. Our problem this season is that we came up more quickly than planned and didnt have a solid financial base to build on. If we had spent any more than we did, in the financial position we were in, it would have been suicidal. At least if we do go down, we will have at least £50m surplus from this year plus a guaranteed parachute payment of around £55m next season, to enable us have a good rebuild and another go at promotion.
    It's not as simple as that, we made a loss of £39 million last time we were in that league, so if we do similarly with a load of players on premier league contracts that's most of the £55 million gone already

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    Re: Jokanovic

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    It's not as simple as that, we made a loss of £39 million last time we were in that league, so if we do similarly with a load of players on premier league contracts that's most of the £55 million gone already
    There will most likely be relegation clauses in the players contracts but the most expensive loanees (Camarasa and Arter) will leave anyway. If we do go down, our income, with the surplus from this season and parachute payment, will be at least the same as it was this season (£100m+) enabling us to hang on to our best players and compete to buy better ones. I have always viewed this season as a bonus season to enable us to build funds, get better players and next time we go up, be in a position to have a much improved chance of staying there. The fact that we are still in contention to stay up at all this season is a miracle really. Thats why I am enjoying the ride/experience in the Prem now.

  7. #7

    Re: Jokanovic

    Quote Originally Posted by dml1954 View Post
    There will most likely be relegation clauses in the players contracts but the most expensive loanees (Camarasa and Arter) will leave anyway. If we do go down, our income, with the surplus from this season and parachute payment, will be at least the same as it was this season (£100m+) enabling us to hang on to our best players and compete to buy better ones. I have always viewed this season as a bonus season to enable us to build funds, get better players and next time we go up, be in a position to have a much improved chance of staying there. The fact that we are still in contention to stay up at all this season is a miracle really. Thats why I am enjoying the ride/experience in the Prem now.
    I agree that this season as always one to enjoy the ride and not worry too much, but I very much doubt we will have £100 million to splash around next season

  8. #8

    Re: Jokanovic

    Quote Originally Posted by Rjk View Post
    I agree that this season as always one to enjoy the ride and not worry too much, but I very much doubt we will have £100 million to splash around next season
    Agree we wouldnt spend all of it but lets say we spend £40-£45m on three or four players, that would get us some good quality Championship players and still leave money to run the club and pay off debts. Similar to what Burnley and Watford have done in the last ten years.

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