Michael Jackson , channel four tonight and tomorrow

[surge]

From my limited understanding of how child abuse is reported, it is possible to repress memories of events and for these to submerge later in life. It also seems to be true that when a well known person is accused it gives confidence to other victims to come forward and it encourages others to come forward who, sometimes because they've unconsciously joined innocent memories into a false narrative, are not victims of the abuse they are alleging.

Part two tonight, is it? Hopefully in the very least it's giving parents/guardians a kick up the arse. Maybe it will also help change how we treat "child stars" and allow celebrities to act.

[blue matt]

This how they work, get the parents trust and go from there.Clever devious cunning.Total control.

I am not sure with all the will in the world would you trust your young lad having a sleep over with a grown man and sleep in the same bed

were they blinded by / chose to ignore the thought of MJ making a star of there son ? ? ?

[blue matt]

To be fair to Wade, he sounds like a straight up honourable guy, maybe I was wrong to doubt him

Former MJJ music exec Clyde Jenkins: to Wade Robson: "you should be ashamed..I personally recall your Mom Joy calling MJJ Music with a sob story about needing money knowing that Michael Jackson loved her and her entire family and would do anything to help her."#LeavingNeverland pic.twitter.com/3mRLjJmqlm

— Leaving Neverland Facts (@NeverlandFacts) March 5, 2019

[Harry Paget Flashman]

My wife is watching it. I can't deal with it.

The bloke is a pedophile, the kids parents sold them out for fame and fortune.

Those men were groomed as children hence the way they speak about him with such reverence still to this day shows his ability to manipulate them as children.

All under his employment should be disgusted with themselves because they all took the coin to turn a blind eye. It's disgusting that the ***** music is still played on tv and radio.

[Croesy Blue]

Looking forward to it, I like some of his music, saw him live at the arms park many years ago

Of course the guy was a very strange weirdo, but these people who come forward were always happy to settle out of court for huge amounts of money, they always look like they are driven by the greed to earn dollars out of it, surely they would have wanted justice ? ? ? and not a few mill bucks ? ? ?

This latest 2, one of them has been working with the family putting on MJ tribute shows since MJ's death, then was still so traumatised by it all he wanted to be the dance director at the MJ One show at the mandalay bay in las vegas, he was snubbed and then this all happened

But having said that, would i have let my kids sleep over with the weirdo, Hell no

Mad how people will do mental gymnastics to defend him because they like his music.

If it was just some guy in the street who did it you would be calling for the death penalty to be brought back.

[Rjk]

Mad how people will do mental gymnastics to defend him because they like his music.

If it was just some guy in the street who did it you would be calling for the death penalty to be brought back.

I don't think it is because of his music, I guess the fact that he was very wealthy means he was able to buy expensive legal representation, who can put up a plausible defence

[Croesy Blue]

I don't think it is because of his music, I guess the fact that he was very wealthy means he was able to buy expensive legal representation, who can put up a plausible defence

I meant people like Matt, he’d want his citizenship stripped if he wasn’t a good singer.

[goats]

Anyone else reckon Jackson faked his own death to rid himself of all this? It could be true......

[surge]

I meant people like Matt, he’d want his citizenship stripped if he wasn’t a good singer.

It's clear that his talent and what he meant to people, as well as the court case in which he was found not guilty, is making some people judge his legacy with rose-tinted glasses. There was a quote I posted in another thread which basically asked whether we should be replacing the word "or" with "and" whenever we say he was, for example, a child abuser or child protector.

[waynekerr55]

What parent allows their seven year old child to sleepover with a grown man

Guilty !!

I've seen the big eared boys on the farm