Quote Originally Posted by A Quiet Monkfish View Post
Not pilot error, true, but UK -trained pilots would have recognised the 'malfunction' and responded accordingly..
The problem as I see it is this.
The pilots knew the plane was not flying properly so they took over themselves. The software continued to overide their attempts to fly the plane until it became unflyable ... or put another way ... was no longer controllable hence the massive speed at impact.

I think the suggestion their foreign training is to blame is dubious.
it has happened twice now and I do not believe the pilots were to blame in either tragedy. They have been put in charge of a flawed plane IMHO

i say this because the initial report on the Java sea tragedy implies massive impact just as yesterdays.
this is not the sort if impact anyone would expect if the pilots were flying to any degree