Johnson and Gove looked like they were about to cry on Brexit night. Charlatans the lot of them.Originally Posted by Arfur Europe
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Johnson and Gove looked like they were about to cry on Brexit night. Charlatans the lot of them.
I see Boris is now backing the deal because he thinks he'll get a crack at the top job if he does, the shameless self interested Kent.
Couldn’t agree more with this.You got to love the way May is desperate to push her shite deal through, so desperate that if done she will walk off into the sunset with her pockets lined heavily no doubt a la Dave carmeron style. Corbyn seems to have moral values which sets him apart from your average MP, but he will never get enough backing being to left. Only centre labour like Blair will ever win in the UK. If anything ever good came from this shambles, it’s we need a new political system, maybe 5 or 6 smaller parties running.
But certain policies set in stone that They can’t f**k about with every 4 years and blame previous governments for any issues.
I genuinely fear for my kids future with the idiots we have in charge at the moment.....
One of the myths was that the German car industry would ride to the rescue of Brexiters in pushing for an agreement that would favour our ‘gallant’ brexiteers.
That myth has been utterly debunked as well as that other bollocks about they need us more than we need them. It reads like Oz from Auf Wiedersen Pet in the one episode talking about how needed they were and how the could lay down the law.
That was bollocks too.
So The German car industry are going to absorb the sales hit? The EU are also facing a potential trade war with America, that's a probable 25% tarriff on many items including motor vehicles. This is not good news for an economic block that is already close to recession, and Germany can't even meet their NATO funding obligations.
Are you sure you don't want to cram any other clichés in?
Oh dear, you were doing so well pretending that you were thinking for yourself.
I buy more from Tesco than they buy from me, I should probably get down there and tell them how I want the store to look.
The sad thing about this whole mess is that this thread has thrown up a better discussion that has been had in the media and parliament.
I’m unapologetic in believing that leaving the EU is a catastrophic cluster**** and that the referendum was incredibly premature to .. however if the deal May struck was at least reasonable and making the best of (in my opinion) a bad situation at least it would have been something to unite us. It wasn’t and it isn’t and if never will be.
Part of the problem is that while the people who voted to remain are pretty united in what remain means .... stay in the EU and help reform an continue to try and get a better deal for the UK, the people who voted leave have very different opinions on what leaving looks like... no deal, Mays deal, another deal etc. And that is where we are with no competent leaders to unite the country as they are all jostling for their own positions and careers
The way the politicians have been so utterly incompetent (labour and conservatives) is incredibly sad.
I would say that many leavers I spoke too are a little embarrassed that they are now being represented (by default) by the likes of JRM, BJ and NF... three people who have never, will never represent or relate to working class people or know what we want and need.
Private jets, off shore accounts, shifting business interests outside the uk and in JRM case spouting Etonian nonsense and being an utter corkscrew to anyone who earns less than a million pounds a year.
I think that the Remain lobby would split if it there were to be a vote regarding staying in the EU as it is right now and staying in longer term and taking into account greater integration that is probably on the cards. The whole stramash has been caused by binary voting not being suitable for a whole spectrum of options and all the complexities involved. Having said that, we wouldn't be in this mess if Cameron hadn't thought that he could see off UKIP. I am not deeply entrenched in the EU camp as I think it may not be fit for purpose in the long term but crashing out as voted for by the electorate is probably the worst scenario of all.
Do you have a business selling FMCG or any any other products to supermarkets?
The U.K. has now taken so long to exit we’re probably going to have to take part in the election for the “unelected bureaucrats”
It’s strange how brexiters are always right leaning but people who are right leaning always say it’s because right parties like the tories are better for the economy. Yet the same right leaning people are braying for Brexit despite it being a catastrophe for the economy.
Do they have an ulterior motive?
Despite it perhaps being a catastophe for the economy.
£1 Trillion has already left the UK.
Do you know that for a fact or are you fearmongering?
Admittedly it came from the mouth of the USA's chief gobsmith, but he does have a habit of doing what he says, which is fairly unusual for a political leader
When it comes to further integration though we could veto that, there could even be a referendum if we really thought it was necessary.
All the fear mongering about the EU army (never really on the cards) or further integration (why’s that a bad thing?) always ignores that we’ve never joined the euro or suffered because we didn’t.
Logging into your other account to laugh at your jokes because you’re a clueless useful idiot.
His other account, really?
Oh no, you caught me
Yeah come on rjk, up your game, or you will never attain the dizzy heights of averaging over a dozen posts per day on a football messageboard.
Says the bloke who needs to be told what to think, and lacks any ability to distinguish fact from fiction. You are the original sheep person
Oh my god.Says the bloke who needs to be told what to think, and lacks any ability to distinguish fact from fiction. You are the original sheep person
You obviously haven't been paying much attention during the past few years
He never disappoints, does he? Astonishing consistency really. Have to tip my hat to him.
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