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It's incredible. A trade deal with the US is a massive opportunity when it's the UK but a real problem when it's the EU.
I find it amazing that anyone can look at what is happening and still think, yeah this is gonna work out well in the end. Even if you're dead keen on the idea of brexit, just look at the people currently in parliament. We have no chance.
Well that is a whole new can of worms. Denied the opportunity to elect a representative to act in their interests in parliament, no.
People not understanding what they are voting for is a pretty good argument for not holding referendums. But then we are denied the right to vote on all sorts of things.
Seems a bit opinioish for someone who deals only in facts - my own opinion, and recollection from the way the matter was discussed three years ago, is that people leaving without a deal, which someone like you would, apparently, have us believe was the preferred method of getting out of the EU on Referendum day was barely discussed.
Assuming you can’t be bothered to turn back a page and find it - I have copied and pasted it below for your convenience:
Quote Originally Posted by xsnaggle
Brexiteers don't need to put it to another vote. They won, remember?
Yes, but won what? A leave with or without a deal or does it not really matter as long as we leave?
The result isn't important, you basically implied they couldn't fight... One country controlled most of continental Europe for years due to their armies, the fact that pretty much every other power within Europe had to come together to beat that one country suggests that they could fight.
Also how about the 100 years war... I think the French actually won that one eventually but some idiot named it before it had finished!
Last edited by speedyblue; 06-04-19 at 22:41. Reason: autocorrect error
We already have one with both. The US are not going to give little UK the same trade deal as they give the big EU... That's how trade deals work.... The bigger you are the better the deal you get. It also takes years to negotiate trade deals, they don't just grow in trees and personally I wouldn't trust this government to negotiate a reduced price on a sofa from DFS
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angu...s_by_GDP_(PPP)
In 1980 we were eighth, 1990 eighth, 2000 tenth, 2010 ninth.
Almost as if the way the EU has changed has been good for us. It's another example of the cognitive dissonance mentioned earlier. Brexiters really shouldn't be using our good economy as an argument, but for some reason they do.
How can anyone say any of one’s what we were voting for? In November 2016 (after the vote) everyone was still saying we would be in the single market. Johnson and Gove wrote articles on it for the sun.
This was after the no vote so anyone saying no deal was what was expected and wanted from the start is talking complete rubbish.
Here’s one from the month after the vote too, the gas lighting on this is ridiculous-
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-eu-referendum-single-market-brexit-a7104846.html
https://twitter.com/frankmcnallyit/s...866241536?s=21
Cognitive dissonance the order of the day for all brexitteers.