Found an article about Johnson now Croesy Blue:-
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...emaining-in-eu
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Found an article about Johnson now Croesy Blue:-
https://www.theguardian.com/politics...emaining-in-eu
Old, thick and stupid was the headlines straight after the referendum, now nearly 3 years later some people think that those people were voting for Canada this and Norway that, single market this and customs union that, lol.
Oh no they were voting out as in OUT.
In your opinion.Originally Posted by trampie09
The link I have just posted shows that, in a Referendum where the question was a straightforward yes or no (so you would have hoped that those trying to influence voters would have been as precise and clear in the language they used as possible), politicians were imprecise in the use of their language to a degree that is not acceptable when the decision being taken was such an important one.
What leave meant to most leave voters was more in line with *no deal* than Norway plus, Canada minus and Common Market 2.0 or any other version of part in, part out.
Fair play to you. It must have been a full time job carrying out those 17,410,742 detailed face-to-face interviews to understand what every Leave voter had in mind when they put their cross on the ballot.
Are you suggesting that leave voters paid no attention to what the leave campaigns were proposing and promising?
The famous quote was it'll be the easiest deal in history. Probably one of the top three most memorable things from the leave campaign.
I don't remember it from the leave campaign but it was a well known quote from near enough a full year after the referendum.
Many commentators thought that with the leave vote winning the referendum that UKIP would disappear but with Brexit still up in the air the Newport West by-election seems to show UKIP alive and kicking, if we have Euro elections in May it will be interesting to see how well Brexit parties do.
For those who missed it the first time..
All he says is that there won't be another referendum, but that's not really his call after he left office. There's nothing about the options of how to leave, nothing about the issues that would transpire in the event of leaving. It sounds as if all that was a tactic before his negotiations with the EU so he could get what he wanted. That worked out well.
What he is saying there is that a Leave vote means that we will leave, no more than that. I voted in the Referendum believing that and I still think the Leave vote should be respected and we shouldn't have a second vote on the subject. However, what Cameron is not saying there is that a Leave vote means we definitely leave on WTO terms, which is the line being trotted out now by those who want us out with no deal. If there's a customs deal, a Norway type outcome, Common Market 2, Canada type or whatever, the result is the same, we will leave the EU, which is what the 17.4 million voted for.
He said he was conducting the final negotiation, and there would be no more negotiation after that. He couldn't have been any clearer, leave means leave without any further negotiation.
So, what you're saying is that what he is telling us nearly a year before the Referendum is that once a Leave win had been announced, there would be negotiation with the EU whatsoever - right, I see.
Dennis Skinner doesn't call him dodgy Dave for nothing, but the relevent bit is when he said he was currently negotiating the final deal!
How can anyone watch that Cameron video and think that means leave with no deal?
At this point ignoring all the evidence that’s been posted and you say no deal was the intention all along you’re either stupid or lying. There is no other explanation.
No deal will be terrible for this country. Anyone who wants it either doesn’t realise how bad it will be or doesn’t care that more of the country will be driven into poverty.
Do people not see the effect austerity is having? Do they not mind if it gets worse?
Boris Johnson: UK will 'still have access to single market’ despite Brexit - https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a7104846.html
The UK would still be able to trade freely within Europe even if it left the EU, Michael Gove has said. - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36074853
David Davis view on leaving single market ‘not government policy’ - https://www.ft.com/content/54edbc7c-...a-de4532d5ea35
The UK's trade with the European Union will be "at least as free" after Brexit as it is now, Liam Fox says. - https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-37504966
The biggest “brexiteers” before the vote were saying this ffs.
Loved that👍
Perhaps you should read posts correctly and do better research before you back other peoples inaccurate information.
I’ve read quite a bit about Brexit and I think us leaving is a life and country changing idiotic decision. And I did love that twitter read, it was very witty and well thought out. Sorry to offend you👍
What laws have the EU forced on us that people don’t agree with then?
So the EU has lots of regulations? That's hardly a surprise. I would argue that these are not examples of meddling in UK affairs, more that they are the framework for EU membership, for frictionless trade deals and so on. Most clubs have rules and regulations.
It's very much different from supposedly inflicting new laws on the UK.
Do people not realise the UK is in the room when these terrible laws are being discussed?
The 12000 are regulations and laws imposed upon the UK with us having little or no say in it, so yes they are examples of how the EU interferes in our affairs adversely.
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