Stay in the EU petition

[Croesy Blue]

I can give you many examples, but the topic has already been done to death, so I don't see the point in going over it again. This thread is about the EU petition, so it's best to stay on topic.

Just give me an example, it doesn’t take any more effort than typing that paragraph you just typed. I’m only asking for one, if you can give many examples you don’t even have to think.

One benefit to the U.K. population of Brexit come on.

[Croesy Blue]

It's say it's fairly relevant to the topic

It’s mental gymnastics that in a thread about stopping Brexit he won’t give a benefit of not stopping it.

[Croesy Blue]

The world is changing, and Europe isn't going to be near the top of the tree forever. Now is an ideal time to formulate a new strategy for the future, and to break away from the beurocratic nightmare that is the EU.

That’s not a real tangible benefit though, that’s a gamble that could not come off.

1. Why do you think Europe won’t be top of the tree
2. What could a tiny island with no industry do to get to the top of the tree
3. What bureaucracy is currently holding us back

Maybe learn to spell bureaucratic before deciding it’s bad.

[Croesy Blue]

When you make claims like this, the burden of proof is on you.

You can't make claims like that, say it's proven, then when questioned for a source say "Go look it up yourself"

It’s been in the news non stop plus I’ve looked into some of the reports myself. Go google it, it’s been in every major paper including the pro Brexit ones. I don’t need to back up a national news story that has scores of reliable source material and quotes.

It’s like a flat earther saying the burden of proof for a round Earth is on me or the burden of proof for the moon landings is on me.

There are 1000s if trusted sources out there if you’re against something like that the burden of proof is on you.

[Llandaff Blue]

It’s been in the news non stop plus I’ve looked into some of the reports myself. Go google it, it’s been in every major paper including the pro Brexit ones. I don’t need to back up a national news story that has scores of reliable source material and quotes.

It’s like a flat earther saying the burden of proof for a round Earth is on me or the burden of proof for the moon landings is on me.

There are 1000s if trusted sources out there if you’re against something like that the burden of proof is on you.

So no sources then

[Croesy Blue]

So no sources then

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Brexit+referendum+illegal

Few million there for you mate

[Llandaff Blue]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Brexit+referendum+illegal

Few million there for you mate

Cop out answer.

[rs3100]

One benefit to the U.K. population of Brexit come on.

You’ll be waiting a bloody long time.

[trampie09]

Experts are now saying no deal is the likely outcome.

[rs3100]

The world is changing, and Europe isn't going to be near the top of the tree forever. Now is an ideal time to formulate a new strategy for the future, and to break away from the beurocratic nightmare that is the EU.

You think the EU is a bureaucratic nightmare? Is that why the EU civil service numbers 32,000 and the UKs numbers 440,000.

I wish everyone would stop putting the blame for the UKs woes on the EU and start having a closer look at our own government.

[Wales-Bales]

You think the EU is a bureaucratic nightmare? Is that why the EU civil service numbers 32,000 and the UKs numbers 440,000.

I wish everyone would stop putting the blame for the UKs woes on the EU and start having a closer look at our own government.

To gain control

Step 1: Leave the EU
Step 2: Vote for a government that will serve it's citizens

[Croesy Blue]

I know I just wish people would admit it’s a bad idea.

Unless you’re a politician or an economist there’s no shame in thinking brexit was a good idea. We were given 1000s of reasons it would be beneficial to us. The EU is not a perfect organisation by any stretch of the imagination and the U.K. government hasn’t used the immigration controls like it could have.

But now we can see there’s no tangible benefit to brexit and people are losing their jobs and working class areas who’ve relied on the EU for funding are now going to get next to nothing from a Tory government. Now we have the full facts people can change their minds.

Brexit won’t negatively affect me but it’ll negatively affect all working class areas and a lot of working class people. I’d rather us be making changes to a non perfect institution from the inside while benefiting from it than stuck outside with the poor getting poorer.

[dml1954]

I know I just wish people would admit it’s a bad idea.

Unless you’re a politician or an economist there’s no shame in thinking brexit was a good idea. We were given 1000s of reasons it would be beneficial to us. The EU is not a perfect organisation by any stretch of the imagination and the U.K. government hasn’t used the immigration controls like it could have.

But now we can see there’s no tangible benefit to brexit and people are losing their jobs and working class areas who’ve relied on the EU for funding are now going to get next to nothing from a Tory government. Now we have the full facts people can change their minds.

Brexit won’t negatively affect me but it’ll negatively affect all working class areas and a lot of working class people. I’d rather us be making changes to a non perfect institution from the inside while benefiting from it than stuck outside with the poor getting poorer.

The EU are merely giving us our own money back to fund all these schemes. You really are being naive if you think the EU is capable of being changed from the inside. The last 40 years should have taught you that. Its like a run away rollercoaster, full of people at the top lining their own pockets and doing as little as they can for it. It is run by career politicians and administrators who have never had real jobs or have any idea how the working or even middle class live in their member countries.

[Croesy Blue]

Experts are now saying no deal is the likely outcome.

I can’t see how anything else will happen now really. We aren’t going to revoke or have another vote. May’s deal is unlikely to get through.

I just hope the outcome isn’t as bad as the forecasts have been.

[Croesy Blue]

The question in the first referendum was perfectly simple wasnt it - leave or remain. Leave won. Couldn't be much more clear than that. Pity those people who want to remain and have another referendum cant/wont accept it.

What does leave mean though? When you voted what were you voting for?

You can’t just say leave means leave because it’s a lot more complicated than that.

[Welshcake.]

What does leave mean though? When you voted what were you voting for?

You can’t just say leave means leave because it’s a lot more complicated than that.

Oh sorry, Brexit means Brexit

[Croesy Blue]

Cop out answer.

How? Do you want me to link you to the story on every major newspapers site?

While you’re here can you give me a benefit of Brexit please? And tell me why you want it to happen?

[life on mars]

I know I just wish people would admit it’s a bad idea.

Unless you’re a politician or an economist there’s no shame in thinking brexit was a good idea. We were given 1000s of reasons it would be beneficial to us. The EU is not a perfect organisation by any stretch of the imagination and the U.K. government hasn’t used the immigration controls like it could have.

But now we can see there’s no tangible benefit to brexit and people are losing their jobs and working class areas who’ve relied on the EU for funding are now going to get next to nothing from a Tory government. Now we have the full facts people can change their minds.

Brexit won’t negatively affect me but it’ll negatively affect all working class areas and a lot of working class people. I’d rather us be making changes to a non perfect institution from the inside while benefiting from it than stuck outside with the poor getting poorer.

And the very working class voted to leave.

[Croesy Blue]

And the very working class voted to leave.

Because they were duped like all of us were, this isn’t the brexit people were promised. They’re going to be poorer for it and the areas they live are going to be worse off from it.

[Croesy Blue]

The EU are merely giving us our own money back to fund all these schemes.

Categorically untrue.

And ignoring how much money the U.K. makes from trade due to being a member.

You really are being naive if you think the EU is capable of being changed from the inside. The last 40 years should have taught you that. Its like a run away rollercoaster, full of people at the top lining their own pockets and doing as little as they can for it. It is run by career politicians and administrators who have never had real jobs or have any idea how the working or even middle class live in their member countries.

How is that different to the British government? And do you have any proof?

[JennyWren]

Categorically untrue.

And ignoring how much money the U.K. makes from trade due to being a member.


How is that different to the British government? And do you have any proof?

We'll be back to Labour and Tories spending vast amounts of our taxes on vanity projects to win marginal seats.

Safe seats like Torfaen, Blaenau Gwent , Merthyr and Rhymney will just be forgotten. At least with the EU we got some of our money back. ****ing wankers killing my kids' future just because they don't like Polish people. Pricks.

[Croesy Blue]

Page 4, not one benefit given.

[Cretin Hop]

If May remains as PM her remainer pals (and she) will get their way eventually as Brexit will just wither on the vine until it just disappears.

Their worst nightmare is a new PM who is a brexiteer who will see it through.

I read though unless she resigns it’ll be the devils job getting her out.

[Croesy Blue]

If May remains as PM her remainer pals (and she) will get their way eventually as Brexit will just wither on the vine until it just disappears.

Their worst nightmare is a new PM who is a brexiteer who will see it through.

I read though unless she resigns it’ll be the devils job getting her out.

How can you have been paying attention and think May doesn’t want to leave? Seriously she wants it and it’s happening.

[Cretin Hop]

How can you have been paying attention and think May doesn’t want to leave? Seriously she wants it and it’s happening.

She may say she wants to leave (having voted against it initially) but is doing her damnedness to ensure if it is then it’s on remainers terms.