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  1. #1

    Re: We were cheated today

    Quote Originally Posted by Hilts View Post
    I doubt it will have much impact.
    You may be right as Chelsea were abysmal for most of the game. They seem right out of form at present, but if they do end up nicking a Champions League spot by a point or two today's result will obviously be significant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    City were very unfortunate with the goal. No doubt about that. Azpilicueta clearly came back from an offside position. If VAR was in the use, the goal would certainly have been ruled out. However, the same is true of Sol Bamba's 90th minute winner against Brighton back in November. That one wasn't so blatant, but VAR would have ruled it out all the same.

    A couple of quick points about the Chelsea equaliser: Sky's replays eventually showed that Willian was blocking the lineman's view at the point that the ball was flicked on, and only one City player appealed - none of those near Azpilicueta did. The game is so fast that these sort of mistakes crop up on a regular basis and they always have. It's human error, not some big conspiracy against the Bluebirds. Indeed, today's decision could have a huge impact at the top of the table come the end of the season.
    It was a couple of yards offside but It wasn't even the worst decision against us today never mind of the season.

    I don't think it's an anti cardiff thing. We will get relegated because overall we aren't quite good enough. Not far off but not got enough.

    However it was building up to a big decision going against us the way he reffed from the off. In the end a couple of them did and all went for them. The way it always does for top 6 sides.

  3. #3

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Fair post and agreed about this being more about incompetence than cheating but coming so soon after the decisions against Swansea v Man City I do feel there is an inbuilt but maybe unconscious bias towards bigger clubs.
    Exactly. Look how bad swansea were cheated last week. It cant all be human error. If so its a little strange how the same couple of teams keep benefitting from it......

  4. #4

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    Those defending the officials today want to think again.

    You can’t make error upon error in the Premier League. We are talking billions of pounds per year here being pumped into the league and mistakes like that are happening.

    It’s a disgrace.

  5. #5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenith View Post
    Those defending the officials today want to think again.

    You can’t make error upon error in the Premier League. We are talking billions of pounds per year here being pumped into the league and mistakes like that are happening.

    It’s a disgrace.
    So what's the answer? Ah, yes. VAR, which will be with us next season.

    Errors from match officials are the subject of discussion on pretty much every football programme pretty much every week. There's a reason for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    So what's the answer? Ah, yes. VAR, which will be with us next season.

    Errors from match officials are the subject of discussion on pretty much every football programme pretty much every week. There's a reason for that.
    VAR wont help. We saw that in the world cup. Its easy enough to give a penalty for an innocuous tug in the box from a corner nobody saw.

  7. #7

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    Quote Originally Posted by Father Dougal View Post
    VAR wont help. We saw that in the world cup. Its easy enough to give a penalty for an innocuous tug in the box from a corner nobody saw.
    Ironically, Pawson could have given Chelsea a penalty early on for an innocuous tug in the box by Gunarrson on Rudiger, but thankfully he didn't.

    Although I'm not in favour of it, VAR will certainly eliminate goals like today's. But it will also eliminate goals like Bamba's against Brighton. Personally, I think the authorities should leave the game as it is. Goal line technology has definitely been a step forward, but errors from officials are part and parcel of the game and always have been.

  8. #8

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    Ironically, Pawson could have given Chelsea a penalty early on for an innocuous tug in the box by Gunarrson on Rudiger, but thankfully he didn't.

    Although I'm not in favour of it, VAR will certainly eliminate goals like today's. But it will also eliminate goals like Bamba's against Brighton. Personally, I think the authorities should leave the game as it is. Goal line technology has definitely been a step forward, but errors from officials are part and parcel of the game and always have been.
    I would agree. But the reason i dont is the big clubs without doubt get the benefit from the officials.

  9. #9

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pearcey3 View Post
    Rudiger should have seen red. Cardiff had two strong penalty appeals turned away. The equaliser was as bad as I have seen from a professional referee. At what point do you want to accept that Cardiff were totally and utterly robbed?
    The equaliser yes. I feel we could have got a penalty or two as well. The Rudiger decision maybe but I'm not sure Zohore gets to the ball before the keeper if I was pushed on it.

    The fact is at the time the cross comes over we still had a point and didn't defend it well.

    The Chelsea winner was avoidable and could and should have been dealt with.

    You could argue if those decisions don't happen it's a different game. Hazard could have pinged one in from 30 yards. We'll never know.

    As has been said if it was a conspiracy to hand Chelsea the points then it is going against the real darlings of the league as Chelsea gain points on them. It is just bad officiating and we're on the receiving end again unfortunately.

  10. #10

    Re: We were cheated today

    Quote Originally Posted by The Lone Gunman View Post
    So what's the answer? Ah, yes. VAR, which will be with us next season.

    Errors from match officials are the subject of discussion on pretty much every football programme pretty much every week. There's a reason for that.
    We had at least 3 penalty shouts, a clear sending off and an offside goal given against us.

    How many of those do you think would have gone Chelsea’s way?

  11. #11

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    MATCH FIXING IS ALIVE AND KICKING.

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  13. #13

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    Officials don't cheat!

    There are poor decisions and awful decisions, and several of both today. The officials get it right most of the time, but not today. And at least they get assessed on their performance, so I hope they get knocked back, not that it's that much consolation at this point.

    But gutted we didn't get at least a point against a pretty poor Chelsea. Had a Chelsea supporting friend staying for the weekend and he said we were robbed and that Chelsea were there for the taking. Have to agree, but it's still points lost.

    Hope that the team aren't too dispirited and that the feeling of being robbed drives them on.

    If we go down, then I want us to go down fighting, not like last time when we just gave up. And I think this team has spirit and will fight to the end.

  14. #14

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    Oh come on the offside was only marginal.

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  15. #15

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    Then we will deserve to have gone down.

    Chelsea scored a legitimate second with completely $hite defending from us so scrub the offside goal and we would have got a point.
    They should never have got the chance to do that.

    Down to 10 men at 1-1 , 2 penalties turned down and an offside goal

  16. #16

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lawnmower View Post
    They should never have got the chance to do that.

    Down to 10 men at 1-1 , 2 penalties turned down and an offside goal
    It wasn't a red card.

    Although if one of the pens was given for the earlier offence it would have been.

  17. #17

    Re: We were cheated today

    Quote Originally Posted by Lawnmower View Post
    They should never have got the chance to do that.

    Down to 10 men at 1-1 , 2 penalties turned down and an offside goal
    I'm not sure it was a red as said before.

    The keeper gets there before Zohore for me who wasn't running at an angle towards the ball. I think this is what kept Rudiger on the field.

    I agree that the refs were bad but after it all we had a point to cling on to and failed to do that.

  18. #18

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harry Paget Flashman View Post
    It wasn't a red card.

    Although if one of the pens was given for the earlier offence it would have been.
    Yeah I can see that.

    I just don't get the feeling that a bad decisions automatically means we have to lose the game.

    If we defend that cross and see the game out then we get a point. It was bad defending to allow the cross with no pressure and to be out fought for the header.

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    Re: We were cheated today

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    Yeah I can see that.

    I just don't get the feeling that a bad decisions automatically means we have to lose the game.

    If we defend that cross and see the game out then we get a point. It was bad defending to allow the cross with no pressure and to be out fought for the header.
    Why do you think that the cross would have gone in if the first goal was disallowed? The shape and attitude of the players would be a lot different if we were protecting the lead rather than chasing a goal with 5 odd minutes to go.

  20. #20

    Re: We were cheated today

    Quote Originally Posted by Llandaff Blue View Post
    Why do you think that the cross would have gone in if the first goal was disallowed? The shape and attitude of the players would be a lot different if we were protecting the lead rather than chasing a goal with 5 odd minutes to go.
    It doesn't matter. Players still have to do their jobs. It's not like we had pushed me forward and had left ourselves exposed, we were well up for a point. It was poor defending, the rest is of no consequence.

  21. #21

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tuerto View Post
    It doesn't matter. Players still have to do their jobs. It's not like we had pushed me forward and had left ourselves exposed, we were well up for a point. It was poor defending, the rest is of no consequence.
    Yeah no-one is debating it's poor defending mate.

  22. #22

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    I don't think there's any case for foul play just extremely unfortunate the ref has missed so much all going for us. I don't really get that bothered but was fuming after the game

  23. #23

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeningradCowboy View Post
    Why did we wait until the 80th minute to bring on fresh legs?
    They should have all been fresh after 3 weeks off

  24. #24

    Re: We were cheated today

    Quote Originally Posted by blue lewj View Post
    Yeah I can see that.

    I just don't get the feeling that a bad decisions automatically means we have to lose the game.

    If we defend that cross and see the game out then we get a point. It was bad defending to allow the cross with no pressure and to be out fought for the header.
    Because it’s changes both teams attitude and shape, I don’t get how you can argue differently

  25. #25

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    Also think the ‘big players’ get decisions that others don’t. Hazard got a free kick today for an apparent foul that I’m sure no other player on the pitch would have got! I think the referees get a bit star struck.

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